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[-] PoorlyWrittenPapyrus@lemmy.world 295 points 1 year ago

NVIDIA rep created an account to make this post

AMD rep was already an active member of the community

Unsurprising, yet it still speaks volumes.

[-] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago

Linux is just Microsoft for oblivious nerds

[-] sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 59 points 1 year ago

Interesting concept, what do you mean by this?

[-] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linux is #1 run by corporate interests like Red Hat (who controls the entire Linux ecosystem, see systemd etc.) in the exact same way as Microsoft. Linux being open source doesn't mean it isn't a corporate project by cumulative billion value companies. It's not free software. It is what's called "embrace extend extinguish".

In short, you can only defend Linux over Windows once Linux stops accepting patches from Microsoft.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 year ago

If you don't like Microsoft's contributions to Linux, you can fork it and remove them. If you don't like Microsoft's contributions to Windows, you have to use something else.

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[-] nooo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

What's it like having your head that far up your own asshole?

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[-] sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

I do not get your argument still. Could you elaborate further?

Sure, if microsoft or redhat was embedding malware or proprietary software via patches, sure. But their contributions are also FOSS!

[-] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

Just use whatever distro Stallman does, you'll be fine. If it's good enough for him, it should be good enough for you.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

And how would anyone benefit if Linux stopped accepting patches from Microsoft?

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[-] 4ffy@lemmy.ml 176 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This might be the first time I've ever seen something productive happen in the Phoronix forums. I love that place. Go to any topic with more than about a dozen posts and it's almost guaranteed to be a flame war. Genuinely one of the funniest places on the Internet.

Check out this one. It took like three posts!

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 93 points 1 year ago

The phoronix forums are insanely toxic. Everything is bad. Gnome = kid's toy. systemd = written by Satan himself. Every programming language = too slow. Anything vaguely interested in fostering a diversity, equity, and inclusion = true colors come out in full force.

It's so toxic yet I subject myself to it every now and again. There's absolutely no moderation going on and it shows.

[-] Supermariofan67@programming.dev 55 points 1 year ago

Any post mentioning Wayland or btrfs is guaranteed to have at least 60 comments

[-] aksdb@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

Obviously. X11 and ZFS are far superior. I use Arch, btw.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

It's super confusing, like I feel many commenters there live in a different universe. They talk about how Wayland is a failure that has failed to get off the ground, while it's the default in most of the major distros at this point.

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[-] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

There is some, but unless it gets really uncivilized no action really gets taken. a couple users have been banned

IMO I prefer it that way myself though. you either learn something neat, or engage in a class shittery. lots of other more polite forums such as this if phoronix forums isn't to taste

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[-] GenBlob@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Once in a while I venture their forums as a morbid curiosity and it always delivers.

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[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Fyi, you've linked to page 4, here's where it starts.

I hope the phoronix forums never die

[-] falsem@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Man, that guy really likes X11.

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Any "X11 vs Wayland" discussion will eventually devolve into a fight beteeen diehard X11 fans and diehard Wayland fans, lol.

[-] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I don't even understand how Wayland has diehard fans. Do they just exit out from their hyperland rice into an X11 session whenever they need to share their screen during a Teams meeting, or do they just say "if it doesn't work on Wayland it sucks and I don't use it".

[-] pitbuster@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Although, screen sharing has been solved a while ago. Any application that doesn't work is because the developers are shit (I am looking into you, zoom and you half-assed implementation using an screenshot-API-based gnome-only implementation).

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[-] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 14 points 1 year ago

I got to page 3 before I couldn't take it anymore and had close 🤣

Nice

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[-] Backslash@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Especially when the original article is about anything related to Rust. An hour after the article is live you'll have 50 posts arguing and trolling like there's nothing more important in the whole wide world. So entertaining!

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[-] silvercove@lemdro.id 96 points 1 year ago

This is how the rest of the industry worked for years. Nvidia was just stuck in the past century.

[-] INeedMana@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago

Behold! The power of open source!

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago

It's kinda wholesome ngl

[-] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 year ago

NVIDIA is finally starting to play nicely with the community to help sort the driver mess out. Nouveau paired with NVK might actually be the future of NVIDIA graphics under Linux!

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

Might make me consider buying an Nvidia card in the future if they can get a reasonably performing and reliable in-kernel driver.

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I still won't buy one just because of this news - they have done lots, lots of shitty things in the past. GameWorks, PhysX, Geforce Partnership Program, etc. While AMD is not exactly a saint when it comes to open sourcing, they still commit far more than Nvidia to open standards.

[-] aard@kyu.de 16 points 1 year ago

They've been dicks for two decades, just playing a bit nicee doesn't really change anything. If they work properly with open source, and enable proper in kernel drivers for the next decade or so I might consider buying something nvidia.

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 year ago

forms

Two mistakes in one word.

[-] comfisofa@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago

This is the most Phoronix forums like comment I have seen so far LOL

[-] Kelteseth@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Legends says that there is a forum post about an article that not begins with "typo:"

[-] Whiskeyomega@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago
[-] Anon819450514@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

Does that mean we'll get more and better firmware updates? Please explain like I'm no firmware dev.

[-] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really. Instead of dumping all the drivers into one repo, there's now a separate repo just for GPU drivers, which is just a staging area, before they get merged into the main repo.

If you ask "why"? It's like creating an extra folder so that your files are organized better.

As an end user, it's not going to change anything for us.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It does mean you are more likely to get eyeballs on your driver from other people doing graphics card driver work. That usually results in higher quality and a higher likelihood of catching issues.

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[-] notfromhere@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

This is the way

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