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The space would be filled by another country anyways so im just happy the money is going to a democracy.
Never sample your own product, I guess.
Banning gasoline cars isn't that radical a step for Norway - 90% of new cars sold there are already EVs. This also doesn't mean the disappearance of ICE cars from Norwegian roads, the old stock will have to gradually disappear as it ages out.
The EU (which Norway isn't in) has set 2035 as the date for banning the sale of new gasoline cars there. However, many think most car makers will have stopped selling them in Europe before that date. As their market share shrinks, it will become unprofitable to make them anymore.
The directive on renewables state 2040 as the last sell by date for gas and diesel, so 2035 is well in line with that.
Well done. Get that shit off your roads.
Learn something America!
America: "No."
Producing fossil fuel, still means you are producing carbon emissions, just that you are giving it to other countries to do the dirty work for cheap.
So, you would rather that Norway didn't ban sales of ICE cars?
Question is, though, how much revenue can be replaced with other products? Or if the lesser demand on gas and diesel might take the margin of operations with it, and thus start a domino effect.
Oh, and in 2025 China will be at 50%+ EVs. That might make a dent in the oil economy.
Look I see the good intentions, but I believe in calling out hypocrisy, saying you ban ICE vehicles, whilst being one of the top producers of crude oil, to substitute your electric vehicles with said profits of selling crude oil, which even the "used in other products" is the minority of products, is a bit hypocritical.
I give Norway a nod to be trying to be the change they want to see, but it feels like the owner of an abattoir preaching the gospel of veganism, how their house is going to be 100% vegan and how people who eat animal products are going to doom the earth due to animals being a major contributor to greenhouse gasses, whilst still operating and profiting from said sale of animal products and using its revenue to make vegan food cheap and easily available to his family.
Yeah, kinda, but not at all. You are trying to diminish something that has never been done before. Spin it any way you want, no country, oil producer or not, has reached a level where it is possible. And you get to benefit from it.
Had there not been a market for a new type of power train, nobody would have made the cars. So we may not like it, but Tesla and an oil producing country are in some ways instrumental in bringing about this change.
So, your allegory is only correct if your farmer is the first ever producer of vegan food. It's still a feat.
Look, I want oil to be deprecated as fast as anyone. That doesn't stop me from seeing the effects it would have if oil dried up tomorrow. Neither of us would like that world. So while it seems excruciatingly slow, we need to do it one step at a time. Now when the ball is rolling, it should start to pick up speed.
Fossil fuels will still have a place even many centuries from now. They are a good backup to have, like paper copies of digital documents.
Oil has a lot of uses, like lubricants and plastics, both of which are needed to make wind turbines.
Ok so back to my comment then, with all these amazing benefits of producing crude oil, clearly I was wrong, we should do everything to get countries to start pumping out oil, if they haven't, or try increasing their crude oil production so that the world can benefit from the thousands of uses, except as fuel but it's less than 1% of possible uses. Heck the oil will make the countries maybe almost as rich as Norway to also use the profits to subsidise the EV market and stop using ICE vehicles, except if they are a poor oil-less country. Heck everything will get cheap since the world will have an abundance of cheap crude oil, due to high supply. Hopefully the Norwegians won't say only they are allowed to ethically produce a crap load of oil, in a low supply world that is due to collusion from OPEC countries
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