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[-] Tigbitties@kbin.social 180 points 1 year ago

I have a prediction: Airlines won't ackowlege that personal trackers as an effective means to track luggage becuase they're trying to figure out how to force you to buy their own trackers.

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 161 points 1 year ago

Frankly I’m trying to figure out how a system that even allows for luggage to be lost without any accountability is allowed to exist in two thousand twenty fucking three

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Cause somehow we've been convinced that if something somehow works once, in one specific scenario - then it must in its entirety be ok for all eternity

(as long as it makes money of course lol)

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[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 40 points 1 year ago

I'm still trying to figure out why they don't already use trackers. RFID tags are dirt cheap and it's 20 years old technology. They already have a process where they add barcode stickers at checkin, slap some RFID in there too.

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

They certainly can and do use a tracking system.

I get notifications from Delta every time my bag moves once it's checked in - loaded, unloaded, what pickup.

There's nothing really wrong with barcodes. NFC/RFID would be a logical upgrade though, and just has to integrate into the existing system.

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[-] youthinkyouknowme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 145 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Happened on a recent flight with me. Company told us luggage was still on the origin airport, someone had an air tag and vehemently asked them to do a double check, and they miraculously found where it was supposed to be in the first place..

[-] foofiepie@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

Happened to me on a recent trip to a country well known for crime.

Your luggage is lost sir, you’ll have to fill in a form.

My luggage is about 15m away behind that wall. Here, see this map. Go get it.

10 min later: Oh your luggage is here sir. Terribly sorry.

Not sure if incompetence or shenanigans but I got my luggage back.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 118 points 1 year ago

I've heard the fix for lost luggage (in the USA) is unironically to put a flare gun or starter pistol in checked luggage (note, you do have to declare it and ensure it's properly stored). Why? The airlines get their asses reamed by the ATF if they lose it. If I'm not mistaken, the same laws about firearms in checked luggage apply to a flaregun as they do a Browning M2. If they're lax enough about following firearm laws to lose a flaregun then they're lax enough to lose a high-caliber, fully automatic heavy machine gun.

[-] whosdadog@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 year ago

It must be in a locked, hard sided case. You let TSA inspect it, then you get to keep the keys and they do not. It's a common(?) trick for photographers with thousands of dollars of camera equipment to put a starter pistol in the camera case.

[-] freeman@lemmy.pub 23 points 1 year ago

A flare gun is essentially a 3d printed single use .410 shotgun.

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[-] seathru@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

I might be wrong, I'm not an expert here and every airline has their own rules on top of the federal ones. But I have flown with firearms and they always had to be in a separate, locked, hard sided case. I don't remember any part of the check in process where I would have been able to put the case back in with the rest of my luggage. I definitely do not recommend just plopping your suitcase up there and saying "hey there's a flare gun next to my socks" unless you have a lot of time to kill.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 16 points 1 year ago

I probably should have been more specific by what I meant when I said, "properly stored". I think you can put anything into the hard-sided case with the flaregun as I've heard photographers (as someone else mentioned), musicians, tech enthusiasts, etc will get a pelican case, put their cameras, computers, instruments, etc into the case with the flaregun. You're right that you can't just dump it into a dufflebag and call it a day, and I'm pretty sure I've heard that you can't put a dufflebag inside the container with the flaregun, as I've heard they'll tell you that it needs to be independently checked and stored in the luggage compartment.

To put it another way, the case isn't transporting your clothes, it is transporting your flaregun and you've just happened to use any extra space to pack your clothes.

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[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 84 points 1 year ago

I just wish airtags didn't require an apple device. Is there even an alternative to these tiny little things?

[-] GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 year ago

Samsung has its own "Smart Tags". They should be better than Tile, since they rely on the Galaxy network and many more people have Samsung phones than Tile devices, but it'd be nice if Google released one compatible with all Android devices, instead of being stupidly tied to a specific brand.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago

Google announced just that earlier in the year; a tracking platform backed by any device with Google Play Services. A number of companies have announced support - including Tile, Pebblebee and Chipolo - but in typical Google fashion it's not launched yet.

[-] sgtlighttree@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

but in typical Google fashion it's not launched yet.

And is likely to get shut down in a year or two...

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[-] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Tile is the closest but it has a much smaller user base since it depends on people having the tile app installed. Airtags pickup on most iphones since most people have "Find My" enabled.

[-] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago

Tile is garbage. I had multiple die without warning or notification, so I switched to airtags even though I have to track those with my iPad.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 25 points 1 year ago

If you're a tinkerer there's a project called OpenHaystack that lets you make your own tags that leech off Apple's Find My network. I've got a couple dozen of them at this point and they work flawlessly.

[-] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I'm a tinkerer but I have terrible tech skills. Do you think a project like that is beginner friendly?

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[-] limerod@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago

It will take a while, but once google launches its Find my device network. You will have plenty of alternatives that work on android.

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[-] outplayed@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Chippolo is making one for Google's find my network that works just like Apple's network. Can't comment on the tracker itself because it's a preorder, but theoretically it could be just as strong with the amount of Android devices around

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[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Airlines are a disgrace to the gift of flight.

Nice job, you took human flight, something once hailed as breaking the chains imposed on our species by the gods above, and in the name of profit made it the most tedious and insufferable thing imaginable.

[-] Koppensneller@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

You want a good flight experience? No problem.

You want a good flight experience that is also cheap? No sir.

The airlines just cater to the market, if people were able and willing to pay double, things would be vastly better.

[-] Ignisnex@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

If people could pay double, things would cost double. Quality likely wouldn't change.

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 year ago

my iPhone was telling me that my AirTag was showing [the luggage] live in Toronto," said Sih. "It would update every few minutes when it would ping off someone's phone."

The way this works creeps me out

[-] RajaGila@feddit.nl 28 points 1 year ago

It's not that as bad as it seems. The way it is set up is actually very privacy-minded with the use of cryptography. I would encourage you to read more about this.

The primary safety concern is stalking. For example when a stalker puts an AirTag on your belongings or vehicle. iPhones can detect unknown airtags moving with you. Android devices should gain this capability in the future.

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[-] BigVault@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

On my way home from Spain as I type this, AirTags in luggage as always.

Haven’t had to rely on them at all due to loss luckily but I do like having them in our luggage.

[-] knotthatone@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

Fortune favors the prepared. Better to have them in your luggage and never need them than to need them and not have them.

[-] lorez@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

Of Course, it's company policy to never imply ownership in the event of a dildo, we have to use the indefinite article "a" dildo, never "your" dildo.

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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 year ago

Seems weird to describe this as lying—does the author think that UA is deliberately depriving this person of his luggage? It seems obvious that their system for tracking luggage is flawed and showing incorrect information. I can’t imagine any scenario where this would be intentional.

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