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[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 month ago

success, content

Making shitty videos is a stupid hobby, not a job.

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 month ago

You can say the same about the whole entertainment industry then. You just prefer other things than short form, visual content.

[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

I cannot say that a great movie is equivalent to a meme in an animated GIF.

Nobody is saying that. But I will take a great meme over a shitty movie any day.

[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Nobody is saying that

Well, that other guy was saying this so...

No, they did not. All I saw was a statement that people making a living on sites like TikTok or YouTube are also part of the entertainment industry. Which is just a fact. Whether you like short form content on these sites or not doesn't change that fact.

[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

part of the entertainment industry. Which is just a fact

Your facts are yours only, and laughable too. Get a job, something that is the tiniest bit useful. But filling the internet with your inane thoughts is definitely not a job, nor does it belong in a forum dedicated to technology. The mere "fact" that any moron can pretend to have a job by putting 30 seconds videos in the latest fad is disgusting and unworthy of humanity.

Woops, I already spent more time answering your post than those idiots have spent filming themselves spewing what idiotic thoughts came out of their brains. Am I an influencer now?

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Am I an influencer now?

You aren't making any money from it, so, no.

Like it or not, people make a living doing this.

[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

people make a living doing this

I know. The tiktok ban may fix that for some time hopefully.

[-] Nima@leminal.space 34 points 1 month ago

what's with this curmudgeon type shit? their livelihood is at risk. just because you're not part of the ecosystem doesn't mean you need to dismiss a way to make money thats worked for quite a few people.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're lice riding on the back of a large and very efficient predator.

Nothing they can do on that platform benefits humankind, though it might funnel some money in the "creators'" direction. They're no better than the teenagers that run bindles of smack from the trap house to the junkie for a couple of bucks.

[-] Nima@leminal.space 9 points 1 month ago

this is a social media app that creators can make videos on. i think you're overreacting just a bit, man.

its not the end of the world. people making content that people enjoy on a video app isn't going to ruin the youth.

relax.

[-] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

Spreading information benefits humanity.

Showing someone how to cook a recipe benefits humanity.

Informing people about things that are happening benefits humanity.

Telling your story, and letting others learn from it benefits humanity.

Entertaining people, even just for a moment benifits humanity.

[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

their livelihood is at risk

They should make a better tiktok: 5 seconds videos, it will be more insightful, and a gift to humanity... Or maybe 1 seconds videos because they will concentrate their talents. But god forbid they find a real job, that would be exhausting.

[-] blakemiller@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How do you feel about content like this? It’s long form, informative, and hobbyist.

Or this guy who generates customer leads to his interior design business?

[-] Lantern@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Their livelihoods are only at risk because they ignored the cards for the previous five years. If you’re living in the US, and haven’t spread your content out to other platforms by now, you are in that situation because of your own inaction. I refuse to sympathize with people who aren’t capable of simple logic.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 14 points 1 month ago

If it pays the bills for those people, what difference does it make? Other than "me no likey", that is?

[-] sem 29 points 1 month ago

They miss the early phase of enshittification. The reason a normal person could get 50 million views in 24 hours is because the tiktok office had a way to juice the algorithm for specific videos and show it to everybody. And they were just doing this for free. Just like Facebook used to show content to people organically. Eventually tiktok starts selling ads and maximizing value, and then you have to pay for the success they used to give for free.

Wait if tiktok is a private company, maybe it wouldn't do that exactly the same way as Facebook and Google

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think those „success stories“ were always at least a little fabricated by the algorithm that somewhat randomly pushed a selected few lucky users immensely just to show the rest how you can become a media sensation overnight. It gives the platform free publicity as opposed to distributing visibility more evenly. Besides the ad revenue on TikTok is almost non existent even compared to Youtube. It was never a platform that you could realistically become successful with even if you got views.

[-] Lila_Uraraka 5 points 1 month ago

It literally has more registered users than there were registered for the US presidential election

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Besides the ad revenue on TikTok is almost non existent even compared to Youtube. It was never a platform that you could realistically become successful with even if you got views.

If TikTok was widely known for being bad for making money then maybe it pulled some people who didn’t care about money like on old YouTube.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

Jesus Christ I'm tired of hearing about this TikTok bullshit every goddamn day

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Morons who should have been doing that in the first place. You never want all your content and success to hinge on the whim's on one corporation.

[-] asbestos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh no
anyways

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Useless, brainless time-wasters, the lot of them.

[-] slingstone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Didn't Vine do this once, then TikTok came along and did it, more or less? Won't there just be another one sometime before we know it?

[-] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~~Have people somehow forgotten that VPNs exist? Like millions are moving to rednote but the easier way is to literally just, at minimum, get a shitty free VPN, and still have access to tiktok.~~

~~Personally tho, I'd probably opt for a cloud server VPN if I really needed one.~~

Edit: this was a stupid take, I forgot the app would be removed from devices and that it will cause inconvenience.

[-] ahal@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago

You vastly overestimate the average person's technical ability.

[-] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Honestly, true. I must be underestimating how tired I am and overestimating how much brain power I got left because, I must say, I barely had a single thought when typing that.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

Any roadblock in using a social media will turn off 90% of the users.
Which means the creators will be gone, too.
Sure, you could connect to it via VPN, but most of the content you like won't be there anymore.

[-] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I fully agree with that, and I was wrong in assuming that it'd be very simple. In my country, we only got online piracy firewalled, so I don't have experience with apps or other kinds of websites getting banned, and somehow I assumed that most of the demographics of a service would try and use it a different way just like how we use VPNs to hop on the pirate bays, but that isn't the case.

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