news: .world world news mod removed from world news (i.imgur.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I cannot repost what Flying Squid was posting here, because it involved highly disturbing and dangerous content, including:

Content Warning

Graphic content, harassment, self-harm, and suicidal ideation, which I reported immediately.

While this behavior is shocking, it’s not completely out of left field, as members of this community and platform will already be familiar with their behavior. Flying Squid has long been regarded as one of the least productive and most problematic mods on all of Lemmy, often picking fights and abusing their mod privileges. I view this change as a positive step for Squid, .world, and Lemmy as a whole.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 months ago

Looked up the modlogs. What the actual fuck.

That said, this whole episode and the comment deletions with the "we can't share this" reasons kinda show how Lemmy is better than Reddit in that modlogs are public.

I find it great that mods can't outright delete stuff, only hide it. It lets them do the job of cleaning up convos of spam and trolls without the unchecked power aspect to it.

[-] Cattypat 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Both of them are fucking insane. To devote this much energy to weirdos on the internet is deranged. They both need to devote their energy to better things, as evidenced by the fact that I had to press "show context" on their comment thread so many times I lost patience. I thought everyone on Lemmy was better than this. I dont care what the original cause of the disagreement was at this rate because EVERY step of the way, one of them couldve turned on do not disturb or gone to an alt account or SOMETHING. If either of you are seeing this, you can do better. Flying Squid specifically? Threatening suicide is the number one way to look immature (of every kind), especially over a stranger on the internet. Do. Better.

Edit: If someone could give a kind description of what the drama was even all about, I'd appreciate it. I can't bear to dig through either of their histories.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 22 points 2 months ago

And the sick thing is we have been CALLING THIS GUY OUT FOREVER. The .world admins are ABSOLUTELY partially at fault for this for letting this user have the power they have had for so fucking long. Sorry for shouting I’m upsetti. 🙃

+1 to your edit though. The content was so vile and triggering, I was not up to the task. So, fair warning to anyone who wants to further investigate a case where every party is so obviously in the wrong. Tread carefully.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

I'm fine with looking at this stuff. It seems FS is having a mental health episode, and this is the result. It's not drama.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

I'm not celebrating, the guy is threatening suicide, and posting pictures of it. He needs to get off the Internet and seek help immediately.

I've messaged @lwreport@lemmy.world about it, I suggest you all do the same.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 months ago

Yes (Content Warning)

Unfortunately, this type of behavior, including threats of self-harm, is not uncommon on the internet and can sometimes be used as an emotional manipulation tactic. However, discussions of suicidal ideation are very sensitive and can be harmful if not handled carefully. Let’s focus on reporting this to the moderators while remaining careful and sensitive in how we address this topic.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

If this post was about Flying Squid banning you then I'd get the relevance to this community. Otherwise it's just drama imo.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are enough posts complaining about FlyingSquid moderation here for this one to be relevant

Edit: actually, couldn't find any actual report about power tripping from FlyingSquid, so if anyone has anything, feel free to share

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago

i disagree personally i think this post certainly falls under “bans or other sanctions from mods” as outlined in the sidebar

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

Who was power tripping in this example?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago

oops i wrote that comment in the wrong text box. copy pasting here:

your position is valid in that this is technically not an example of active power tripping. i personally think this community is more valuable as a historical resource with this kind of follow up content but i won’t say your opinion is wrong.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

What is the point of this post, when there's no actual details as to what was posted? The key images seem to have been deleted off server, and without that it's extremely difficult to pick up the context.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 months ago

Because of the content of the offending material it’s really hard to put the full info in a post without breaking terms of service. You are welcome to make your own post if you feel you can do better! :)

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

No, I have no idea what the context is. Hence my comment, because this is all drama without any info.

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

The modlog shows the conversation. The person in question seems to have a breakdown and offers to commit suicide on stream for someone who they claim want them dead.

[-] holo@lemmy.wtf 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 months ago

jordanlund is still around who is like squid’s slightly less chaotic yet just as unproductive twin. i will certainly be sticking to !world@quokk.au for now.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I can second !world@quokk.au along with !usa@ponder.cat and !politics@sh.itjust.works, and !technology@lemmy.zip.

I never understood the beef with FlyingSquid. Every time I heard this hue and cry about how he was abusing his powers, I asked for details, and it turned out the details were that he sent one rude message to one user, months ago, or that he liked to argue with people. Whatever. If he's now in a bad place I hope he gets some help. Life is fragile.

Jordan is too nice, and too much pretend-objective behind a supposedly objective set of rules, in my opinion. He tends to allow clearly toxic people and behavior, as exemplified by you-know-who, as long as they are careful not to violate any of the written rules more than twice or three times a week. There's nothing wrong with being nice but in some positions of authority it can wind up getting abused.

Jeffw is great. To me the epitome of his style as far as I can tell was when people starting complaining about the fact check bot, and he said "Oh, you don't like it? We'll remove it then." Why it was ever some kind of more complex other operation besides that, everywhere else, is why I no longer chill with lemmy.world.

I have mostly moved on from the LW communities and I would recommend that you do the same, so I care very little about all of this, just tossing in my opinion in passing.

Edit: Removed the suspect instance, replaced it with blatant shameless self-promotion.

[-] MelodiousFunk@startrek.website 10 points 2 months ago

I never understood the beef with FlyingSquid. Every time I heard this hue and cry about how he was abusing his powers, I asked for details, and it turned out the details were that he sent one rude message to one user, months ago, or that he liked to argue with people. Whatever. If he's now in a bad place I hope he gets some help. Life is fragile.

Exactly this.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

I can second !world@quokk.au along with !usa@midwest.social and !politics@sh.itjust.works, and !technology@lemmy.zip.

Good choices, but Midwest.social admin is known for power tripping: https://feddit.org/post/5548029?scrollToComments=true

Are you aware of any other community for US news?

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

!newsondb0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I'm not. Yeah, midwest.social is weird. Just a little bit. I hesitated putting it up there.

It's frustrating to me that there is no really good community for non-political US News. !news@lemmy.world I have 0 complaints about, but it's lemmy.world, !usnews@beehaw.org is a little quiet and also defederated from lemmy.world which in my opinion isn't ideal, and yes, midwest.social is a little bit odd.

You know what? Fuck it.

!usa@ponder.cat

Let's see if that is useful.

I'm open to suggestions, as far as whether it should be only non-political news, and political news should go into one of the already existing multiple good places for it.

I feel like a lot of the interesting news that is going to happen over the next few years is going to be political, though.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

You know what? Fuck it.

!usa@ponder.cat

Let’s see if that is useful.

Nice, feel free to promote it on !AskUSA@discuss.online

I guess a promotion post on !world@quokk.au would also help

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 months ago

thx for sharing

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Jordan is too nice, and too much pretend-objective behind a supposedly objective set of rules, in my opinion.

He still has to come back about an arbitrary decision about Canada government terminology that the majority of Canadians users consulted refuted: https://feddit.org/post/5761475/4078668

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 2 months ago

That's an example of what I mean about the fake objectivity. It's hard to explain exactly, but he shows sometimes a sort of defaulting to some kind of "officialness" or higher authority that's figuring everything out, that he speaks on behalf of, that doesn't actually exist.

It's okay to just be a person, and use judgement, and be wrong sometimes. People will respect your authority more, not less, if you do it that way.

I'm not trying to bash the guy, I slightly bad even about talking about the topic. I think he's doing some hard work at an important role for keeping everything functioning. I do disagree with his judgement in some areas of moderation, though, and I think when you sign up to take forcible control over some area of people's experience, you also sign up for having your judgement talked about even if it's not complimentary to you.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

his ban for "bad faith" against return2ozma was ridiculous.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago

And their lack of understanding their comms rules.

Or they add rules specifically to target single users then ignore it for others, like the # of posts per day rule

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

why is it not there anymore?

[-] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 5 points 2 months ago

Why don’t the Redditor stay there.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 months ago

i’m saying like-

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

If this was in the thread about unsettling facts he was explaining his pain condition which actually is referred to a suicide disease. Given the outrage some people have against him I imagine some people saw the opportunity to harass him about it.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Fuck yeah 🤘

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

Okay I tried to go through the modlog and the comment screenshot that you censored is removed from the modlog?!? How the fuck in censorship that bad on this platform. I might as well use tiktok

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

If you read further down it is discussed why it was removed.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

Removed from the mod log tho? I don't see anywhere explaining that

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

https://lemmy.cafe/comment/9376491

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

Ah I see, thanks

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

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