Turns out normalizing mass surveillance makes people not care about being spied on

The fediverse and the decentralised web has a long way to go and need to learn a thing or two about UX unless it wants to join the plight of Linux distros.

Its OK, I dont mind lower numbers on fedi. Feels more like The Good Old Days™ of forums. More people, more shit.

Americans are populist trend followers, get what they deserve. Even China banned TikTok 😂

If you want more people to join the fediverse, you have to improve the user experience. People don’t want to read an article breaking down what the fediverse is, how to join an instance, how to find content, etc.

Streamline the join process so it doesn’t require learning the lore and technical training. Stop promoting the fediverse generally, and instead push people to easy to use frontends and popular instances. Remove the barriers to entry. If they want to dig deeper into different instances and the technical stuff, let them do that later. Stop loading the info dump at the front.

The fediverse as a whole has missed a huge opportunity here. I never see anyone talking about it as alternatives to twitter or tiktok, only bluesky and rednote. AFAIK we have no alternative to tik-tok that is viable right now, so I don't know why anyone thought we could manage that one.

"I'm protesting American oligarchs and the surveillance state by willingly giving my personal data to Chinese oligarchs and the surveillance state. Lol, get rekt. I am very smart."

I know we are all on here because we dislike the kind of algorithms that tik tok, Instagram, and Facebook have, but that is exactly the thing my wife was looking for. When I had her download pixelfed and loops she was like ' I have to search out content and manually follow people like I did with Facebook back in the day?' and she uninstalled.

Algorithms can be addictive and evil, but for some people that's what they're looking for.

Also our developers are too poor to ge oligarchs.

What should we expect from people who voted in a rich, old, white guy as their savior.

Fediverse fanboys when they realise that their obscure and socially complex software isn't know by many people specially outside of the tech bubble, and that it's not the same experiences that they will get with their known platforms:

Lemmy doesn't have the censorship and speech-control from those platforms, but it pretty much distributes your data widely to anybody that asks for it.

Lemmy is great but it does not hit the spot for a large-scale consumer social network because that's just not the philosophy (It also lacks the unified identity because of its greatest feature: federation)

People are not searching for an aggregator of small forums of friendly tech people, they want to be part of the next big thing.

If you work on apps as a front-end, you probably understand that Lemmy requires too much hassle to get started with UX-wise.

It's engineered for a niche, and it's perfect to me but obscure for the majority of people who were trained to use the same UX for years and years.

No algorithm, no feeling of fame, rarely drama, content takes some time to be updated. Those are features to me but hindrance for large-scale adoption I believe.

Somewhere deep in the CCP...

Senior Operative: "What intelligence have we gleaned from the Americans so far?"

Junior Operative: "I'm beginning to think this well is dry."

I used to think that the perceived complexity of the fediverse was creating a hurdle for more adoption.

Now all these fucking people are learning Chinese to better use RedNote.

Apparently convenience isn't actually a barrier? I'm baffled why so many people are flocking to anything other than the fediverse.

FWIW Pixelfed's been growing like crazy the last couple days

Source: https://pixelfed.fediverse.observer/dailystats

edit: loops has a much smaller userbase but has also gained active users in the last couple days: https://loops.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Maybe y'all should stop screeching bootlicker schill Nazi with every moderate take and replace the mods with reasonable people trying to mod instead of censoring opposition vote points.

So so so many people talking about confusion and platform design and privacy. It's the users and moderation pushing regular people away.

Apparently some Israeli-Americans went on Red Note to specifically asked Chinese people what they thought of Israel, and users basically said they were "Devil's on this earth for killing babies" which like...damn. Even through the Great Firewall they aren't beating the allegations.

So I'm sure the Israeli lobby will get that banned next, we shouldn't worry.

They’d be right at home at .ml

You can't put videos on pixelfed, right? That unfortunately means it's not a competitive platform. Video is what people seem to want.

I have long since given up on Normies ever coming to the Indie Web, federated or otherwise

Ever since the big Xwitter exodus, when people went to BlueSky when Mastodon was right there.

Seems astroturfed to me

Ptime example:

others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

TikTok doesn't want the data of the average person becaue they aren't valuable in any way.

TikTok is being blocked because they can manipulate their algorithm to feed influencers to them that push pro-Chinese stances.

Imagine a hypothetical hot war between the US and China where China is telling a significant number of the US population what to think. I specifically say it that way becaue I don't believe any US company has a significant user base is China.

" . . . giving Rednote access to their data as a show of protest . . ."

That's a special kind of stupid.

People were sarcastically making the comment about sharing their data with the Chinese government. AFAIK there has been zero evidence that this had been happening in the first place.