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What do you guys think of the idea of smart homes? I could make a basic setup using https://home-assistant.io to control my home temperature and lighting; the tools for doing this are everywhere nowadays and implementation doesn't seem too horrific anymore.

But setting aside what I "can" do, is this something that I "should" do? How can a person implement this without connecting any devices to the internet?

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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

If any of it uses cloud services or requires internet access to function, then it's harmful. It will be gathering lots of personal data that will be sold. It will stop working if the company goes out of business or just decides to stop supporting your hardware or if they ban your account for whatever reason they want.

If it's all self hosted on your LAN, then it can be convenient, provided that whatever it controls can be manually operated if there is a problem. It's even better if you are using all open source hardware and software.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

An absolute nightmare for security and privacy. Just say no.

[-] sylverstream@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily. If you use eg zigbee devices, they are only accessible locally.

But you're right. Most smart devices connect to the cloud.

[-] ABoxOfNeurons@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

I like mine. It has a lot of nice convenience features, and it feels good to have stuff happen automatically based on your presence. Scripting useful automations if a time-consuming hobby though, and if you're mostly just interested in doing voice control for lights it may not be worth it.

I'd recommend staying away from anything that connects directly to the wi-fi if possible. ZigBee lets you isolate the garbage hardware from the Internet so they can't be used as zombie devices in a botnet or worse, and have home assistant be the one point of contact.

[-] Drewelite@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

It's a great and rewarding hobby! But having cloud connected devices on the same devices as your sensitive information is an issue.

Use a vLAN and IoT devices capable of local control. Use a self hosted hub like Home Assistant. Keep devices that collect sensitive information (like a camera) out of sensitive areas (like the bedroom). Then you should be reasonably secure.

[-] alottachairs@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The only smart objects I have are some light bulbs. I think, some processes are good to automate and put software in control of, and some things I want to have explicit control over (I.E. Door locks, Safe locks, AC settings, Heating). Technology can break in fantastical ways, but a lock should just freaking work.

[-] Gsus4@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I love the idea of having motorized blinds and windows that automatically open/close coordinated with thermometers to regulate house temperature.

[-] Egroeggnik@rammy.site 2 points 1 year ago

As someone who has spent many years working on my smart home, I suggest, as do others, KEEP IT LOCAL.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

It's convenient but it's less secure and less reliable. Imagine being locked out of your house because the Internet is down.

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