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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by ShotDonkey@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

I swear by Njalla, which is run by Peter Sunde

[-] guismo@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago

I've been using Runbox for many years and it's weird i don't see recommendations.

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[-] bobbyfiend@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

I have been on Opalstack since they started. I like them. I pay for hosting monthly. I've self-hosted several apps there (or tried to, sometimes; I couldn't make everything work all the time). Nextcloud is dodgy; I like it, but it's a pain in the ass for someone like me (not a dev, not a coder) to deal with the almost inevitable problems every 2 or 3 times I need to upgrade. And I've never been able to get an office suite working well. Much of this could be because I'm trying to run NC on shared hosting; even opalstack's support doesn't fix all of that.

Email: opalstack has email. I use it. I don't actually know what service it is, but I have three or four mailboxes linked to a couple of domain names I own, and several hundred email addresses* Thunderbird does great with IMAP on my laptop, desktop, and phone, with opalstack as the server.

*lots of emails because when I sign up for something I create a new email address just in case they sell my stuff and I start to get spam.

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[-] growingentropy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Wow. Sweet tantrum. Hope it pays dividends. I've seen enough, Lemmy. G'bye.

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[-] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

been using https://migadu.com/ for a few months now and its pretty great

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

disroot

depending on your politics, autistici

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[-] jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

I know Google just donated to Trump's inauguration, and also does all the stupid surveillance capitalism crap that Google does, but I just compared prices, and Google Workspace is a few dollars per month cheaper per user than Proton is, for my needs (family, custom domain names, etc)

We've been on Proton for a few years, and it's fine, but we do also have Pixel Android phones, and not using Google services constantly feels like swimming upstream, plus all family members also still end up having to use Google services for work, anyway

It's just not practical for me to de-Google, which is a shame, so I think I'll be switching in a few months, unless pricing changes significantly :S

[-] myrmidex@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 months ago

So long, and thanks for all the fish

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