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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Summary

House Speaker Mike Johnson stated that federal aid for California's devastating Los Angeles wildfires, which have killed at least 24 and displaced nearly 200,000 people, should come with conditions, citing alleged failures by state and local leaders.

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Other Republican leaders, including Senators John Barrasso and Ron Johnson, expressed similar views, blaming liberal policies for exacerbating the fires.

Critics denounce these positions as cruel, given the scale of destruction, with over 12,000 buildings lost and massive evacuation orders in effect.

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[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 176 points 2 weeks ago

You know California could just not pay the federal government taxes for a year and we would be back to 100 real quick.

No reason to giving money to other red welfare states that this state earned.

[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago

I want this to happen soooo bad. Signed, a New Yorker (State, not city)

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[-] takeda@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago

The thing is that it is us, who pay the federal taxes. We would have to stop paying them and then redirect it to state government. The problem would be how California could change that?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

The GOP also cut funding to the IRS. Who is going to do that collecting?

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 121 points 2 weeks ago

Is this how you Make America Great Again? Is this America First?

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. When you consider that means making the left suffer. This is exactly what MAGA wants.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

They will eat their own shit to spite us.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Except there's more Republicans living in California than the total population of most red states.

[-] EldritchFeminity 13 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't matter. They'd jump on a grenade if they could push a liberal down underneath them.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Mexico is helping while "America first" government officials are deliberately withholding aid. Absolute demons.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

This is "Republican America First".

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

This is their version of it.... Make white America great again

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

More like Make The Confederacy Great Again.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 97 points 2 weeks ago

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Aka "Something terrible happened to you and you need help, so this is my chance to force you to do what I want."

This is just dripping with psychopathy. This is why I could never become a politician or a billionnaire CEO: I just couldn't hold my breakfast in in the morning looking in the mirror.

[-] tiefling 49 points 2 weeks ago

Psychopathy is a requirement to be part of the American Nazi Party

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 weeks ago

I think you'll find a whole lot of them in all parties. And in boardrooms.

Debt ceiling lmfao. Go ahead, y'all are in government, your fault. We can suffer together, no concessions to nazis.

It'd be funny when the world no longer trust the US because debts are no longer being paid.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago

The guy who represents one of the welfare states that takes a lot more money from the union than they give back... is doing this to one of the big blue states that gives to the union a lot more than they get back?

Fucking pathetic, greedy, immoral little shit. I hope his home gets wiped out in the next natural disaster that hits good state.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago

I guess California and other blue states should also tie federal taxes to things of their own. Maybe even leave the union altogether, alongside with other states.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe the more than 6 million people in California who voted for a Republican candidate will learn from this.... Guessing not though.

[-] WeUnite@lemm.ee 50 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats: Please remember this moment and when it comes time to the elections constantly repeat this on loop as much as possible. We must never forget this.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 33 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats: we already know they're pieces of shit

Republicans: Fox news tells me California deserves it.

We live in the post truth world, what you believe to be true is predetermined and nothing means anything that comes from outside your chosen propaganda outlet. :(

[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 2 weeks ago

I honestly really admire your optimism.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] kipo@lemm.ee 46 points 2 weeks ago

California should be like: "We will not negotiate with terrorists."

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 43 points 2 weeks ago

If you are in california and have nothing to lose remember that you know where mike johnson goes to work everyday.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

You know if I lived in California right now I'd be wondering real hard why even be a part of the union? California contributes more than it receives, has vastly different politics than the rest of the country, has a powerhouse economy.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

The entire qon thing of "California bad" is just so very fucking stupid. It's clear they are very jealous of California, which is arguably our most important state.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 weeks ago

None of these people are serving the United States. They need to be removed.

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 weeks ago

If I was governor of California:

Sure, go ahead. We'll stop paying Federal taxes. Let the red states crumble as they don't have our funds. You hold us hostage, we'll play by your games. You go low, we go low.

Maybe then we'll have some sort of progress as a nation for the first time in years.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

California is welcome to become Canada's 4th territory or 11th province (both are equal).

I don't know if we can help you a lot, but we definitely won't treat you like shit.

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[-] facelessbs@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

The economy of the State of California is the largest in the United States, with a $4.080 trillion gross state product (GSP) as of 2024.[1] It is the largest sub-national economy in the world. If California were a nation it would rank in terms of nominal GDP as the world's sixth largest economy, behind India (4.27 trillion) and ahead of the United Kingdom (3.588 trillion).

And we are also a donor state. Even with all the RnD that we have.

[-] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 31 points 2 weeks ago

California might as well be in the G7. So go right ahead Johnson, be petty and watch what happens when we stop paying federal taxes. You better believe we’ll be able to fund this kind of shit ourselves if we don’t have to share…

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Doing something so cartoonishly evil to so many people who so recently lost everything?

I don't know, sounds like a safety issue for him. Hopefully his preservation instincts kick in.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 28 points 2 weeks ago

Climate change comes for all

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago
[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Always remember the 4th of December. The day Saint Luigi and his followers will come to collect the dues owed to society

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 2 weeks ago

If y'all want to see what happens to the federal budget when California stops paying, keep it up.

Should probably stop giving the free money to moochy red states though.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 weeks ago

Here's hoping Mike meets his Luigi soon.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

The Government of Fucking Putin and their America Last agenda.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

When can I stop paying federal taxes? I don’t get anything in return for them.

[-] IMongoose@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

I honestly think this is going to be the start of hopefully cold civil unrest. GOP will block federal aid, California and maybe other blue states will stop paying federal taxes. Red states start imploding.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah except Democrats are generally too cowardly to actually go that far. The most we'll probably see is lots of lawsuits against the federal government from blue states like during the last Trump admin.

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[-] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

What a fucking piece of shit you are, Johnson.

[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

These fucking ghouls are cartoonish in their villainy.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

These are the people they always want to apply the 'higher ground' and 'congressional decorum' to. Fuck em.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

So the next time Louisiana gets fucked like they did during Katrina we all just tell them to suck it?

[-] socsa@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago

That's pretty much what GWB did though

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[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I thought it was Canada’s fault for not turning on their faucet?

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