I like how he cares about the paperwork for the gun, but the paperwork for the car is easily bipassed by magic SovCit jargon.
Oh God they wanna be wizards so bad. I have the magic scroll, I said the magic words, so you can't touch me now.
between this and handjob boebert wanting to abolish the ATF... like, what do they really envision? mad max? can I strap a grenade launcher to my roof rack and claim traffic was threatening me?
Pretty sure it'd still be illegal and someone would eventually shoot you. ATF just shoots your dog before they shoot you because they can't tell the difference between a carbine pistol chambered in 5.56 with a wrist brace and a short barreled rifle.
I mean, they're almost functionally identical, but that's what happens when there's an arms race between gun makers skirting illegality by technicality and the atf trying to plug gaps. Either way though, dog shot.
a carbine pistol chambered in 5.56 with a wrist brace and a short barreled rifle.
see this bullshit right here...
mate, the 5.56 wrist braced 'pistol' is built with the same fucking 5.56 receiver, you've cut down a rifle for specious and bullshit reasons to evade legislation that was stupid in the first place.
all built on the absurd idea that we need a heavily armed populace to reduce crime. this shit should have ended in the 90s. people don't need combat loads to protect their homes. the hysterical demands of an society deranged by arms manufacturers.
local yokel pd is much more likely to shoot your dog than a fed.
I feel like you didn't read the second half of my comment.
I feel like you didn't comprehend my response. It's certainly a direct reply to the entire thing - but the gun nuts dissatisfied with the ATF literally put the ATF in that impossible position through chickenshit legislation and lack of oversight - but you use it as an excuse to blame these overworked underfunded feds with shooting your dog.
You're angry the atf plugged the gaps, I'm angry guntwats keep pushing for combat weapons in civil society.
WE ARE NOT THE SAME.
You're angry the atf plugged the gaps
They didn't. The gun manufacturers are the ones thriving in the wiggle room. Though I am slightly tickled that if I put a foregrip on an actual handgun, I'm suddenly a felon because it magically becomes not a handgun.
sorry, should have said attempted to plug the gaps, or plugged the gaps ineffectively resulting in this.
man I'm just prior service enough to realize I don't want full battle rattle on the streets in my home country. ain't how I grew up. it's... fucking disgusting how this worship of firepower has made school shootings a leading cause of child death.
I can't fathom how anyone can look at that, understand a quantum of logistics, and not realize - more guns aren't helping.
I enjoy firearms, I dig the engineering involved with making a working, reliable platform but never forget - they're tools to kill and maim and the fetishization of gun culture has hurt this country irreparably.
I completely understand and agree, but I think the cat is out of the bag on this one. There's simply too many guns to round them all up, too much support for gun ownership to push any major bans, and congress/ATF is absolutely impotent when it comes to legislating them which results in our current problems.
Achievable goals I think include throwing the book at straw buyers, gun owners who fail to secure their weapons resulting in an incident of injury or death, and holding law enforcement more responsible. How many times have the police or FBI said "he was on our radar"? Plus that one school shooter, fuck if I even remember which, had contact with police 30 times and was banned from carrying a backpack on campus because they were explicitly afraid he'd shoot up the place. Yet his NICS check was clean and bought a gun legally.
TL;DR: Expand checks, document more shit, punish cops for failing to protect people (even though they legally don't have to).
Cleaning that up will make a decent dent, but the real killer is mental health. I think 60% of gun deaths in America are suicide? I'm not even going to make any suggestions there because we're so fucked on that front that nothing will change.
I told my kids to...
Surprise! Kids in the car got to see their father get his just deserts. Officers may have even made a CPS report, as a cherry on top. Sovereign Citizens love CPS cases, I've heard.
This guy's an idiot, the sister is an idiot, I really feel for those kids.
I mean, how do we know the sister is an idiot? Posting bond for a family member is understandable. Unless they're violent or dangerous, and frankly, this sovcit doesn't seem like that. A fool, and suckered in by some real hucksters who are hawking him a product that will hurt him, but not a danger.
Doing double the speed limit with your kids in the car is not a danger?
Can't wait to hear how you justify this.
It could be an accident. I got pulled over because I was just cruising around the loop in my town on a Friday with my cruise control set at the speed limit.
At the time, my college didn't have school on Fridays, so as I passed the school I asked myself, "why are there so many cars when there's no school?" Then I saw the lights.
I still maintain that the school zone lights came on after I entered the zone since the school busses weren't even lined up yet, but I was driving at a safe speed for the road itself.
The cop thought so too, since I only got a ticket for 55 in a 35 instead of in a school zone.
Bro somehow found the one good cop
Alright, I'll buy this highly specific scenario.
Okay, you know, that's fair. I personally detest speeding because it is a danger. However, I feel that we are speaking of two different meanings of the word here, and my meaning of the word danger is much different in regards to whether or not someone should be bonded out.
You're right. ACAB. I was flippantly feeling judgy. Sorry!
It's fun to laugh at sovcits and I know we're dealing with unreliable narrators, but I think there's some legitimacy to this person's objections about their treatment by police. Trying to seize the gun in TX is a big one to me.
It's been a long time since I had to deal with texas laws about firearms, but I think there is a clause about having a handgun/firearm while in commission of another crime. Yup, here's the relevant one. Then there's the plate one which is what triggers that 'other than... Class C' part of the first one, since having a fictitious plate is a Class B.
So basically, the seizure they're doing is legal, although as we all know, *cough cough*, legal ain't always right.
I don't disagree that credit is a joke of a system, that people should be treated poorly by police or anything, but still they're pretty bonkers and also dangerous. One killed a cop in Dallas a couple of months ago.
It's an interesting intersection between a sense of entitlement, thinking legalese is like magic spells where if you use the right words you get what you want, and police/government overreach plus late stage capitalism making people think they need something like that to get what they feel they are entitled to.
I am someone who politically thinks all our needs should be met because we pay taxes. My motto is give everybody everything, to quote the poet Bernadette Meyer. But sovcits just have very strange ideas.
It's almost always people who have lost their license due to multiple DUIs.
Sovcits are funny and all but we don’t need to lick boots about it
This isn't licking boots, this is laughing about someone FAFO.
If someone walked up to a cop and said, "guess what, I just robbed that bank over there but I have diplomatic immunity and here's my International Citizen card" and the cop cuffed him and took him down to the station, I'd laugh at that person too.
This is basically the driving equivalent.
Hahaha yeah, let’s laugh at the dad getting thrown around in front of his kids because his papers were wrong. Cops should immediately resort to physical violence when someone is dumb and annoying. Speeding is the same as a bank robbery, after all
I will laugh at him. He's a dumbass and he found out what happens when you're a dumbass in front of a cop. It's not about the cop. It's about the dumbass being a dumbass.
Also, it's east texas. He's lucky they didn't toss some meth in the car and get him on that.
You're twisting the facts so hard to fit your narrative here, it's really dishonest and makes people take your view on cops a lot less seriously.
So you think because he shat out some crotchgoblins he is exempt of being a criminal?
Do you also think Trump is innocent because he is a father?
Ok let me break it down with crayons because apparently y’all don’t understand that multiple things can be true at the same time:
Given the above, maybe we don’t have to give the cops the benefit of the doubt and assume that whatever they did to him was necessary and justified?
The only good guys in this story are the kids, who were probably traumatized by the experience.
The "victim" here is the one telling the story guy. But you're right, we don't have all the facts, but we have some. Like him not obeying lawful commands and getting arrested for it, which he admitted to. He broke the law and you wanna go at the cops for holding him accountable, literally doing their job. You blame the stove for your bad tasting food too?
Questionnaire? LOL! That's a new one!
I'm guessing even most "I don't get paid enough for this shit" cops would say that went too far.
I've actually seen them do something like this before, I'll see if I can find it, where they try and get the cop to sign a form they made.
Policeman wasn't having any of that shit that day
If you're wondering about the firearm charge:
Latest sovcit video that I've found:
Sovereign Citizen Mom Finds Out Laws DO APPLY to Her
I'm extremely grateful that cops seem to know what this is about now. They used to be confused about it, but I haven't seen them thrown off by it in the last couple of years. Sorta like recognizing domestic terrorism.
One of the cops who was attacked in Dallas by a sovcit who also killed one of the other cops has now lost her vision because of it. I don't like cops but she is a young black woman and I also sort of hate that for her because she's obviously not very privileged as they've started a GoFundMe for her.
I don't like cops, but I like sovcits even less. Sounds like a cause I'll support. Link?
Oh, wait… she's a "foreign national." Sorry, I hadn't caught that. Hahaha.
"It doesn't have to be registered."
Yes, I'm watching the video as I'm commenting.
Lol, "I'm not gonna read any of your paperwork, you can bring that to court."
Hilarious.
It's pretty cool how you can just declare that the laws don't apply to you and then you get a free pass. /s
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