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Countless firsthand accounts of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have disappeared across the last decade, and it may speak to larger issues with the historical record in the digital age.

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 141 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile archive sites are getting sued by greedy copyright owners

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago

.... for illegally distributing copyrighted material....

I'm so tired of whiny bitches expecting everything for free

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 82 points 2 years ago

I'm so sick of whiny corporate bitches thinking they deserve $400 million payouts because some website implemented a free digital library of books they already owned so people could still borrow them during COVID when all the libraries were shut down.

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago

Hey I totally understand why they did it, I'm just saying it's not how the law Works around copyright, and that's not changing until we change the law

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago

yes but what you said in reaction to "when sites try to archive information and incredibly rich copyright holders with infinite money and lawyers sue them to the detriment of human wellbeing in order to earn a pittance more to add to their infinite dragon hoard and that's bad" is "you're a whiny bitch."

perhaps it would've been worth considering adding your thoughts on the nuances of how laws bind vs protect people in the original comment?

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

No, I don't owe it to everyone reading my comments to explain my complete thoughts on everything, people shouldn't be out to try to change everybody's opinions on everything all the time?

[-] baked_tea@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

Why post an incomplete comment then if you're too lazy lmao

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

incomplete =/= satiating your desires to understand where I'm coming from

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

Meaning you couldn't find a way to explain your bullshit boot licker comment that was sufficiently flattering to your ego.

[-] baked_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Obvious troll at this point

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[-] TheLadyAugust@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

people shouldn't be out to try to change everybody's opinions on everything all the time?

Why are you trying to change my opinion on changing other people's opinion?

I don't owe it to everyone reading my comments to explain my complete thoughts

Oh, i guess you won't answer that. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago

You're literally on EVERY post just spewing hateful bullshit for no reason. Grow up

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

You should go become a Disney lawyer and increase copywrite to 1823!

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[-] c0c0c0@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

The whiny bitches to whom you refer clearly do not appreciate your analysis.

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

They sure seem to have no issue gathering all our data and info for free.

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[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 years ago

So, in short, the whole “just someone else’s computer” thing will always come back to bite you. And of course, we’re still struggling with this. Here on the Fedi, everything is tied up on servers run by admins we know little about without much recourse to download archives or migrate, unless you’re up for full self hosting.

[-] excel@lemmy.megumin.org 23 points 2 years ago

Except the fediverse is highly resilient in this regard, since all of the data is replicated. If an instance goes down, all of that instance’s posts are still available on every other instance.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

There is that, yes. But how much control do you the user have over those caches should the original server/instance from which they were made go down? Can you easily archive or retrieve them? Edit or delete them? Do anything to further ensure their longevity? Link them back to your new social media account so that others can easily identify them as yours? Verify, in any way, that they were (or were not!) written by you as the owner of a new account?

[-] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Definitely a few of the major things lacking in the Lemmy/kbin world.

[-] Strawberry 15 points 2 years ago

theoretically one couls create a lemmyverse archive that crawls the lemmyverse and subscribes to all communities it finds and archives all federation activities that it receives

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Would you even need to subscribe?

Setting up an instance should probably work, unless other instances choose to defederate from it, I guess

[-] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 12 points 2 years ago

Instances only collect stuff from communities that have at least one subscriber on their sever.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

And it looks like it may only pull new posts and comments and not old archives.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

Imagine if, in 100 years, there was a massive Carrington Event and most of the world's data was destroyed. How would we piece our history back together?

[-] reflex@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How would we piece our history back together?

Maybe some kind of foundation to stem the period of bahbawism?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Remember what happened to that foundation? And the alternative doesn't actually work based on our medical and scientific knowledge.

Stupid psychohistory.

[-] d4rknusw1ld@artemis.camp 7 points 2 years ago

Stupid sexy Harry.

[-] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

"The aurora over the Rocky Mountains in the United States was so bright that the glow woke gold miners, who began preparing breakfast because they thought it was morning."

Lol, this must've been hella confusing.

[-] reflex@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub 12 points 2 years ago

Luckily, it is possible to shield the power supply from a carrington event at least, and we do have satellites keeping watch. The main issue is making sure all the power infrastructure is actually shielded, which costs money >.<

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Bro Texas won't even pay to weatherize their power grid and they know cold weather happens every winter.

[-] sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago

Can't say you're wrong tbh :p

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[-] squib@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Pretty obvious. We build a time machine to go back to 1776. Then, when it malfunctions and sends to 1976 instead we learn the art of The Hustle.

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I'll be honest, I had forgotten MySpace was a thing back then. Every single page I went to was gaudy as hell and took forever to load on my dial up connection at the time. I'm a little surprised they're still around. And damn, it looks a lot different!

[-] June@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yea it’s a music centric site now, right?

Edit: I was curious so I looked it up. They either have 6-10 employees and 1-5M in revenue, or 523 employees and 84.2M in revenue, depending on whether you misspell ‘employees’ in the search or not (on bing).

[-] mainframegremlin@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

I don't remember the specific article I read that dove into this but it was essentially sold due to it being one of the first large data collections (user data). I'm not sure the extent its traweled now but before the social media machine took off, it was the largest if not one of the largest concentrations of actual data points to run algorithms against.

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[-] Catasaur@lemmy.catasaur.xyz 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I see this as a plus. People have a right to be forgotten. The problem nowadays is that companies track you and keep all your data forever and then use it to advertise to you.

At the very least, data collection and preservation should be explicitly opt-in.

If you really want to save something, download it yourself.

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[-] silvercove@lemdro.id 7 points 2 years ago

Do not worry. History will not forget the murders American thugs comitted there.

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