Somewhere, the one remaining user of Temple OS just woke up in a cold sweat.
Lemmy feels like this at times.
That “at times” is doing a lot of lifting.
I use Windows, but for the Win12 beta Microsoft asked for my firstborn son as a sacrificial offering.
I mean I didn't like him anyway, but I just thought that was a bit weird.
The nVidia drivers seem decent though.
It really feels like that here on Lemmy.
I get it, it is a great OS. But thinking it is for everyone is just plain stupid.
For everyone? I agree, that's silly. It's definitely suitable for more than the tiny fraction of people who use it though
Im 99% sure i can give some distors to my family, and they wont notice a difference.
Sure, because they have someone like you.
Most families don't have that luxury. If their OS breaks, they bring it back to the shop.
funny thing, i haven't had to fix my wife's computer once since i got her to switch to manjaro nearly a year ago. when she was on windows i had to help her fix something at least once a month.
funnier thing, the guy at the shop probably uses linux and knows how to fix that too.
Hackintosh enters the room
With MacOS support for x86 probably ending really soon I don't expect Hackintosh' being long for this world.
Steam OS in the corner thinking “they don’t know…”
Steam OS is just Linux though
Richard Stallman bursts through the wall ”IVE NEVER INSTALLED GNU/LINUX!”
To actually answer you: Linux itself isn’t what most computer users would understand as an ‘operating system’. GNU/Linux is a family of software packages that are used to build an operating system but there is no ‘Linux OS’ the way there is Windows. And SteamOS is poised to be the best shot at significantly increasing the market share of gnu/Linux based operating systems in the general population. The steam deck is basically just the pilot program for the full release of an OS what, a decade in the making? That said, most people aren’t really going to care let alone understand the nuances of Linux/gnu/foss/kernals/etc. and so Steam OS, though a distro build on GNu/Linux technology, is going to look like its own thing to most outside observers.
If this is flawed please feel free to correct me!
I use LFS, btw
Not to flex but I use ubuntu by the way 🤓
I use arch btw
Arch is soo mainstream
Nahh, Mint is where's the shit at, bois 😏
If Arch is so good, then why is there no Arch 2?
It's called Manjaro, and yes the sequel is always worse.
Dev friendly, not user friendly
I also doubt the dev friendliness. GUIs are a godsend for software development.
I've been using a GUI on Linux for a very long time.
Its the easiest way to have multiple command prompts...
User friendly is pretty vague but if we're talking about the average user who uses the computer to browse the web, play some games on Steam with friends and do some document editing that is all covered. Linux Mint would be an excellent option. The installation is arguably easier than Windows (because you won't get all those pesky telemetry and data gathering questions), visually it looks and functions similarly to Windows, most standard software is handled by a package manager so no using terminal to install things and the distro prefers stability and ease of access over fancy bells and whistles.
If there are any user issues they're most likely because of third party developer not properly supporting Linux and there's nothing Linux can do. One example is anti-cheat for games. You can't play Riot games on Linux simply because their anti-cheat won't allow you to play their games on Linux and there's nothing Linux devs can do about it.
I don't know when was the last time you used Linux but I'd say the user experience has definitely improved in the last 10 years. It's gotten to a point where I'm actually willing to recommend Linux to users whose needs I'm familiar with and know they not going to have some weird needs that need the use of a terminal.
It only has one weakness, you just have to ask it which distro.
any popular one
like arch!
Haha good comic. Linus really speaks the truth when wondows says that haha funni.
I use Mint btw
I should try this tactic to attract some femboi to install gentoo for me or have they moved on to NixOS by now?
Can confirm, moved to NixOS.
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?
Ah yes, because those bearing the uncomfortable truth must be crazy. That was so funny I forgot to laugh.
You are the living embodiment of Lemmy.
Please, this was washed a decade ago.
I'm dev friendly
Debuggers run in command line, making them less accessable to the average person, so they need to learn the commands to get it running.
Same is true for Windows.
Frankly you cannot get around the command line when developing.
Doesn't that very much depend on the language and the IDE? In visual studio i don't need to touch the command line for a debugger, it'l do all of that for me behind the scenes, which is the point of an IDE.
Hm, yeah, if you have an IDE made for your language, I suppose you can get around it for most things. (But that is not Windows-specific, most of those exist for Linux as well, after all).
Still, I have (for example) not worked in any project yet that did not have some bash scripts to automate project-specific tasks. Ireonically, the only person using a full-blown IDE in my team is also an absolute crack at the CLI.
I know those are anecdotal, but I would still maintain that it is very difficult to completely get around the CLI, and frankly, I do not see the benefit of doing so. An IDE is esssentially a nice wrapper around tons of CLI tools, and being able to use and understand them can only be beneficial.
It seems you have not typed in "gui" when using lldb via cli. Also, people use cli debuggers because they want to. Everything has a gui, jetbrains happens to make some of the best ones, based on top of cli debuggers like lldb.
If you have an IDE (or even VSCode) you can have graphical debugger just fine
Real question: does any windows user actually like the OS?
I sometimes disagree with decisions made with GNOME, but at least I know was not made by a company, thus not made for profit and also it's Foss. And that always outweighs these bad decisions.
There are parts of it I like more and more.
The fact that it mostly just works. That very little important has changed since Windows 95 when it comes to the core user experience.
When they tried changing things (Vista, Windows 8 "Metro") users revolted, and the following versions were more conservative and popular (Windows 7, Win 10).
Who knows, maybe internally they've decided on a bimodal release cycle:
Maybe it's like a relationship with an abusive partner. They hurt you (privacy violations, desktop advertisements, etc., ) but then they make up, and make it hard to live without them.
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