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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org to c/glasses@lemmy.sdf.org

Luxottica: the illusion of choice and what you're really getting when you spend hundreds of dollars on glasses.

This documentary was broadcast 13 years ago. Since then, Luxottica, the monopolistic Italian frames manufacturer, merged with Essilor, the largest ophthalmic lens manufacturer in the world. Today, EssilorLuxottica vertically controls 80% of the eyewear industry.

Here are more recent documentaries about EssilorLuxottica:

How Luxottica Dominates Sunglasses

How Does Luxottica Dominate The Eyewear Industry Secretly?

EssilorLuxottica | A monopoly hidden in plain sight

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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not going to disclose where I buy my glasses but when I bought it locally, I could very easily spend above 300€ for stock lenses and a basic frame.

I needed a lense change every two, at best, three years. Between wear and prescription change, it was necessary.

One year I spend nearly 400€ on prescription glasses. Under less than 3 months I have a lense peeling, the coating flaking off the surface. I file a complaint and the lense is sent to the manufacturer for evaluation abd it is found I am to blame. No exchange, no refund.

I decide to take a gamble, go to an Ophthalmologist, get a medical prescription issued, and then have my glasses executed externally. All things added, I spent 130€ to replace my glasses.

The next time I go see the same doctor for a checkup, I get complimented on the quality of the lenses I have but criticized for overkill (very low thickness, which I really don't require, anti reflex, UV, scratch resistant, etc).

I have never bought glasses again in my local market.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’m not going to disclose where I buy my glasses

Why not? Do share 🙂

I don't pay for frames and I can get single vision lenses for relatively cheap - like $70 a pair. That's because single-vision lens blanks are mass-produced in molds, so all the lens manufacturer has to do is pull the correct pre-made blanks and edge them.

So my single vision glasses cost $70. Not as cheap as they could be, but my lenses last a few years since I'm careful and my vision doesn't change too much, so it's okay.

But the real killers are my progressive lenses: the last pair I ordered cost me $600. Progressive lenses are ground to order, so I get the price difference. But still... $600 is really quite steep. I buy custom-made things that are way more complicated to make than machine-ground lenses for a lot less.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

I shared it once when I was still on Reddit and the lot came down on my head.

I had a pair of progressives made for my father in law at the same place and what would be a 1300€ total, locally, got knocked down to a bit less than €200, doctor apointment included.

5 years later, the glasses are still perfect.

Reddit isn't real, it can't hurt you

[-] thenextguy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I buy 3 pair of sunglasses for $20. e.g. glasses are not expensive. Expensive glasses are expensive.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm guessing you don't need prescription lenses. Correct?

And yeah, I'll agree with you that overpriced designer brands are overpriced. That's the case with designer anything. But if you just need basic, good quality glasses simply to see correctly, you still end up paying a lot of money because the market is captive.

[-] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Buy online. Way cheaper. Zenni is great

[-] thenextguy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The thumbnails say Chanel, Prada, Vogue. The 60 minutes video mentions Tiffany in the first few minutes. She even says "well, they can be expensive".

Are you suggesting that it is simply not possible to find reasonably priced prescription glasses that are not luxury brands?

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The documentaries aren't only about designer brands. The excessive markup also concerns more mundane frames.

It is of course possible to find cheaper prescription glasses. The point is that EssilorLuxottica heavily impedes healthy competition in the entire eyewear industry, and you could be paying far less if the market was truly free.

I'll tell you two anecdotes that illustrates this:

  • When I go to any of my local opticians to order lenses - all Luxottica outfits - I tell them I have my own frames and I'll be doing the fitting myself. I don't want their service: all I need them for is as a vehicle to order lenses, because I can't order direct from Hoya. Each time, they charge me between $25 and $50 because I didn't buy frames from them. And they do that because everybody else does that too, so they know I have no other alternatives.

  • I have a friend in Australia who regularly vacations in Indonesia, Malaysia, Taiwan, Hong Kong... and he told me that, for his simple prescription, he can get an eye exam, lenses for his correction cut and mounted onto frames in one hour for a few dollars, and each time he goes on vacation, he gets 4 or 5 pairs made because it's so damn cheap. Why? Because it's all stuff made in China and sold at normal markup.

Glasses are a solved problem, and a centuries-old technology. They should be a commodity. They have no reason to be sold at anywhere near the price they're sold at.

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