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An Italian holiday may be a priceless experience for those who have enjoyed all this country has to offer. But the summer of 2023 will go down as one of the priciest in history after a slew of price gouging scandals at cafes and restaurants that have affected foreign tourists and Italians alike.

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[-] 0101010001110100@sopuli.xyz 52 points 2 years ago

“In August, high-end tourism continues to grow, unlike normal tourism,” Antonio Coviello, a researcher with Italy’s National Research Center wrote in a report on luxury travel issued this week, adding that the risk of over-tourism in the luxury sector is a concern because it could drive up prices in the mid-range travel sector to accommodate the bigger spenders.

Says a lot, doesn't it? Specifically: The peasants can get fucked.

[-] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

"Get back to work!"

[-] stefano@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

At least you mustn’t give tips to have the waiter reach the minimum wage.

[-] Misconduct@startrek.website 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If this is a jab at the US all servers make minimum wage. If they don't make enough in tips, which is rare, they have to be paid at least minimum by their employer. If you're gonna unnecessarily bring up the US and gripe about it randomly at least know your stuff. Or... Just take criticism instead of constantly allowing yourself to be distracted by another country. Just some food for thought but don't worry it doesn't cost extra

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

See how long you last as a server if you have to get paid up by the manager to make minimum wage.

[-] Misconduct@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago

I was a server for 10 years lmao. Yeah, you can have trouble if you're not making tips but you'd be screwed in that situation either way. The point is that no server legally makes less than min. Fighting tips is such a small battle when we should be fighting to raise min for everyone. Hell, servers often make more than min with their tips so except for some edge cases any other normal minimum wage worker is worse off

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[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago

it doesn't cost extra

They still have to tip you 20% otherwise you wouldn't be able to afford rent

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[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago
[-] Misconduct@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not a boot licker I just think we need to not worry about tips right now and raise the minimum wage for everyone. Servers are making min too it'll benefit everyone more.

It's too bad I would have hoped you angsty edgelords would stay on reddit tbh.

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[-] Crazypartypony@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yea, you'll be fired if you aren't making tips. It's right to work too, remember. Think a little bit before your condescending to others for having thoughts.

[-] Misconduct@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I did it for 10 years. Have a conversation like an adult or go back to reddit good lord. My point is they always make min. We should raise min for everyone but people care less about that because they're just pretending to care about servers to justify not tipping lol

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[-] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Minimum wage is $2.13/hour for a server in the US... You're being disingenuous by implying they make federal minimum wage which is $7.25/hour.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Legally, you do. I’m not claiming that’s reality, but there is a legal requirement

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[-] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You make minimum wage over the course of a whole pay period. Because tips vary, some nights you may work nearly for free as long as later in the pay period you make enough tips to get you to minimum wage for that whole week/two weeks. People have the impression that you get minimum wage as a baseline that you can't fall below on a given day. It does actually work that way on the West Coast of the US and a few other states, but not the majority.

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

You're technically correct, but most people, including workers, don't know this. The companies often don't pay then for the missed wages. This is called wage theft, which is the most common kind of theft, by far, in the US. Yes, it's technically illegal, but it won't matter unless they're held accountable, and what service worker has the time or money to sue them over a little missed money?

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[-] DTFpanda@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I took a date out the other night for a drink and some food. We split a turkey sandwich and each ordered one basic cocktail. $41 + $9 tip. Could've made all that at home for less than $10. The US restaurant system as a whole is mental. Not even 5 years ago I had dozens of options during lunch to get a lunch special which included a whole bunch of stuff for less than $10. None of those options exist anymore, they're all gone.

[-] nicoweio@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[-] r00ty@kbin.life 31 points 2 years ago

I've travelled to Italy quite a bit. In every case yes, prices on the main tourist thoroughfares are high. Sometimes eye-wateringly high.

But invariably you do not need to go very far to get off the beaten track and find much better deals. Explore and profit.

[-] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

But invariably you do not need to go very far to get off the beaten track and find much better deals. Explore and profit.

Pro tip: that's true absolutely everywhere in the world. It's crazy how much cheaper and better the food is a mere three blocks on foot from tourist attractions. Can't read the menu? Look at what people are eating, and point at what looks good.

Never failed me.

On a micro level for Americans... Never pay for gas nearest to a highway exit. Drive a mile and immediately it's .50-$1.00 less per gallon.

[-] r_thndr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

What region is this? Here in the South you're just as likely to pay more by going further out.

Not sure where in the South you're in.

But I verified that theory on East Coast, West coast, texas, Florida, California. The ones nearest out of the highway are typically catered towards Truckers or business travelers.

The ones away from the highway can charge less because of less visitors and conveniences.

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[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

When I visited Florence last year, the food prices were insanely good (visiting as an American where food prices have gotten outrageous) when you get away from major tourist spots. And the food was better too.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 4 points 2 years ago

When we visited Florence, it would have been maybe 10 years ago now though. We were staying right off the main square. I think the only thing we did in that square was breakfast. Otherwise, it was always places off the main roads. Great city, not sure I could climb the dome 10 years later though!

Lovely city to visit though, for anyone reading.

[-] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Admittedly a long time ago, but in the 90s most places, even near tourist attractions, were inexpensive in Italy. $1-2 for 0.5l wine, $3-8 for most pasta. The best pasta we had was $3 and was about 1 block from the main train station.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago

I normally go off the beaten path when I visit a country. Tourist attractions are always, always more expensive. Whether it's Marrakech, Venise or Rome.

[-] starlinguk@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Mate, even the Italian prime minister, who has a farmhouse in Puglia, has gone abroad for her vacation.

[-] Tygr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The problem there is risk of crime, in my experience. However, it was always better food, but can get sketchy.

Same.

How many fucking photos of the Mona Lisa or Eiffel Towers are these basic bitch tourists going to take?

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[-] nothing@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago

Have to say this is typical anywhere tourists are. Some are more hidden than others. Ever been to a sporting event, concert, or ski mountain? Same shit.

[-] BrainisfineIthink@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago

I'm in Cancun and my hotel charges $35 for sunscreen. Extortion happens in tourist spots, everywhere, always.

[-] queersynths19@mastodon.social 7 points 2 years ago

@BrainisfineIthink @nothing well you’re in Cancun..go to the corner store or a supermarket. Too scary to leave the resort?

[-] BrainisfineIthink@lemmy.one 13 points 2 years ago

You seem like one of those people that talks just to hear themselves talk.

[-] doubletwist@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Overcharging at tourist traps is hardly a new phenomenon. I went to Italy in the late 90s and they were charging $4 for a 12oz can of Coke I could get for 25-50¢ at home.

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[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

We just told them we aren't paying the crazy prices. Shouted a bit and they let it go.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

they deserve it to be honest

[-] starlinguk@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

Because you can't afford to go to Italy?

[-] reflex@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

$2 to cut a sandwich in half

What a bunch of Gorlami.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Is it really gouging if people are willing to pay it to be fancy?

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