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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by techconsulnerd@programming.dev to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can't understand why does anyone still write notes with pen and paper. You need to bring the notepad, book or that paper to retrieve that information, and most of the time you don't have it in hand. While my phone almost always reachable and you carry when you go out. For those still like to do handwriting, there's many app does that and they can even convert it to text notes.

So, if you still write notes with pen and paper, why?

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[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Since I got a Remarkable 2 tablet I don't write on paper anymore. It's still handwriting so it's kind of the best of both worlds.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just on phone. They're not important notes though. Just random stuff. I don't even remember the context for 80% of that.

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[-] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I usually have a dozen sticky notes on my desk - some i write and some other people leave for me. An email from three days ago is easier to forget than the sticky note.

[-] lemmy0@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] jhoward@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but I use a rocket book to easily digitize these days. Tried a remarkable, but didn't quite like the process once many pages were involved (slow to flip through pages).

I also keep quite a few notes on the computer and phone via self hosted Joplin. Which is awesome too.

[-] DagingAnalog@lemmy.my.id 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, for recipe.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I work with a deaf guy.

Harder to draw diagrams on a phone.

[-] redxef@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, mostly university and work though. I don't have a tablet and the drawing tablet is at home most of the time. Pen and paper just gives more flexibility than text. Though I instantly scan them and upload them to my paperless instance.

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

a mixed of digital + pen/paper notes. The latter especially when I need to sketch out ideas, diagrams, equations and a bunch of arrows between them.

[-] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I use my phone for quick notes on the go, or creating lists of information I want to be able to re order and edit.

I use pen and paper mainly for brain dumps. Getting a stream of thoughts out of my head and on to paper. I find trying to use a phone for this will lead to some distraction and the thought will go before I capture all of the info.

I also use pen and paper when studying a topic, especially for a test, I find the simple of act of writing the information down is enough to cement it in my brain, even if I never go back and read those notes.

[-] sgharms@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Here’s the biggest reason: we are evolved from savannah primates for whom the ability to make eye contact and hold it was a signal of “you can trust me, I’m not about to bite you.” Paper and pen don’t signal “I have decided to break this evolutionary/social contract” in the same way a phone or open laptop does.

I help mentor a lot of young people in early career and their generation with a phone is an excuse for an x-er/boomer interviewer to punt them waiting to happen. It’s career and comp limiting, right or no.

Also if one finds a taken note is missing something, contact the original party. A conversation that begins with: “you got me thinking about this more deeply and I think I may have missed something…” is the key to mentorship, advocacy, and growth.

In short from a transcoding of bits perspective, other media may be better. But for those they acknowledge human constraint and opportunity a nice notebook and (a cheap shill from me) a Lamy Safari medium nib fountain pen will do you quite well.

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

we are evolved from savannah primates for whom the ability to make eye contact and hold it was a signal of “you can trust me, I’m not about to bite you.”

Funny. Cats are the opposite. To them, unblinking eye contact says “I don't trust you. I'm keeping my eye on you.” Hence the slow blink they're famous for.

Paper and pen don’t signal “I have decided to break this evolutionary/social contract” in the same way a phone or open laptop does.

Why not? Either way, you're breaking eye contact. When paper first became commonplace, people probably made the same argument, and there are photos of people on trains all looking at their newspapers and ignoring each other.

[-] techwizrd@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I enjoy writing with fountain pens, and I've got to justify the numerous pens and inks I have. I also find it helps me with recall and focus. So I take notes by hand most of the time.

[-] s_s@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I do not trust things in my phone to stay private.

[-] hitagi@ani.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yes! Pen and paper is much more flexible compared to writing-software. It's easy to draw around or write on the margins when needed. I've tried writing with a stylus but I find it harder to use. I usually use this for class and if I have to jot down something quickly.

The only thing I don't put on paper is my todo list. Software manages that so much better than pen and paper. I also don't print out reading material anymore as it gets expensive and very bulky. I use xournalpp for annotation instead.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Writing with a notepad is better for those who need to be freeform, want the ease of opening it up, and/or have privacy concerns (a phone of any security can be hacked, but a notepad can’t if you write in a code only you can understand, which can’t be done on a phone without an unlimited resource of special characters). As for reachability, it’s what you make of it.

[-] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, tablet and stylus

[-] u202307011927@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Aesthetics mostly, but also it feels more tangible when expressing myself physically, not digitally. Like, I can better recognize what I wrote, because there were more senses involved in writing than there are with typing

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, but it's more like when I just don't have my phone or I'm at my desk and have a pen and paper more handily available than digging it out of my pocket. Most of the time, I use the phone. Especially since I can have my note app remind me about the notes.

[-] TheyHaveNoName@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

When I need to learn something and think it over I use pen and paper. If it’s noting stuff down to read later or record somewhere, then it’s digital.

[-] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

I kinda meet in the middle and just digitally scan my handwritten notes. It makes for easier backups and still have all the benefits of writing paper notes

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Rayspekt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

If you have to write equations and drawings, pen and paper is still better for me. I'll scan it to onenote afterwards.

[-] Karmmah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I did take all my notes for university on pen and paper because I don't have a laptop with a touchscreen and pen. But I was never quite happy, since I would lose some notes or not find something specific that I knew I wrote down somewhere. This semester I tried using Obsidian and I and it has been great so far. I am now able to search my notes by text and I can back them up somewhere safe. When I'm not on my laptop I take quick notes on my phone but the important ones will then later be transferred to Obsidian.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Speak for yourself.

Pros of pen and paper: always in my pocket, very fast to open up and read and write notes. Never runs out of battery. Readable even in brightest sunlight.

Cons of phone: must remember to take it with you or search your apartment to find where you place it and hope you have remembered to charge it during past couple of days. Additionally you have to unlock it and flick through the menus to find the note app. Additionally additionally you have to remember to take a charger where ever you go.

[-] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cons of phone: must remember to take it with you or search your apartment to find where you place it and hope you have remembered to charge it during past couple of days.

I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who leaves the phone at home, or forgets to charge it. 90% of my time using the internet it's from an actual computer.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Often times I keep a notepad beside me. It is my preferred way to store ridiculous length passwords for stuff I care about. I'm usually on a laptop and I may switch it up and use another device to look up stuff. I don't mix my workstation with socials or shopping. Those three activities are all done on different devices, with different networks. So I don't care too much about what can be scaped from here. I don't see value in a small amount of convenience exchanged for connecting my devices, I'd rather just jot down a note and look up the item when I need it.

[-] kowcop@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think I have touched a pen for much other than signing my name since Covid hit

[-] Ukuli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I do that for work, for instance when evaluating students and sharing my desktop, it is just more convenient and private to do it on a paper. Maybe also nostalgia plays a factor here, since even in uni not that long ago, I still used notebook and pen.

[-] random_character_a@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So rarely that one time when I had to write something short on a guestbook, for a second or two, I didn't remember how.

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I don't write notes most of the time. If I do I'm in a meeting and just use vscode or whatever task management system (jira, trello, etc) we have.

[-] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

95% digital. Work journal is in Tiddlywiki and that's basically it. Todo lists I do tend to do with pen & paper.

I like pen and paper but searching is always such a fucking hassle and my hand writing is garbo. If I know I don't need to actually find anything later then it's great (doodling and thinking about something). I guess I could do pen and paper and layer save into digital but meh.

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