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[-] protist@mander.xyz 242 points 2 months ago

YouTube says the policy will combat “egregious” clickbait that misleads viewers, with a particular focus on videos related to “breaking news” or “current events.” The company’s examples of egregious clickbait include a video with the title “the president resigned!” that doesn’t actually address a resignation or a “top political news” thumbnail attached to a video with no news content.

This is only going to target garbage-level content. You can still expect the same clickbait-style titles and thumbnails from established creators

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 102 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

YouTube will never "crack down" on these guys. They are their money-makes and can do whatever the fuck the want. Clickbait on huge channels is YouTube's bread and butter, even if people just click to comment that the creator sucks, that's still engagement and means there is more money in the ad bids.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 months ago

YouTube is the one pushing them to clickbait. Their metrics are designed such that if you don't bait clicks a huge percentage of the time you're shown, you won't even show up in the feeds of your actual subscribers.

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I think you've correctly identified their self-interest over altruism, but you've misidentified the internal value of discouraging clickbait. YouTube is a treasure trove for building training datasets, and its value increases when metadata like thumbnails, descriptions, titles, and tags can be trusted.

It's the AI gold rush; notice how this coincides with options to limit or disable third-party training but not first-party training? It coincides but is definitely not a coincidence.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I'll be even more cynical than that: I think this policy will be abused to suppress legitimate news/current events videos with a POV the oligarchs doesn't approve of (e.g. pro-Palestinian, pro-Adjuster, etc.).

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

Yes, which YT actively encourages people to do. So ultimately nothing really changes.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

This will address extreme and obvious falsehoods but I still encounter clickbait of the more pedestrian kind everywhere I go. “You’re using your table saw WRONG” or “the 1 table saw trick 99% of people don’t know” etc.

I consider this clickbait: it creates a false sense of urgency and doesn’t convey any information in itself. What is this one trick? Oh I already knew that one, but I had to watch the video to realize that.

It wastes a lot of time and makes things harder to search for. And often these clickbait headlines are not in the video headline where YT can easily scan them, but in the thumbnail graphic in huge letters, where it’s probably harder to automate any moderation for.

I pay for YT premium but this aspect of the experience still feels ad-like and cheap.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 122 points 2 months ago

So, they created an algorithm that will only reward clickbait and completely ignore honest titles and thumbnails, then complain about their platform being one giant clickbait? Huh...

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 120 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Or, you can bring back the dislike button and stop promoting videos with high dislike ratios.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago

Do comments first. There's so much spam that almost looks legit because of how many upvotes they have.

[-] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

And actual scams with 300+ upvotes. Not just copied comments that get edited layer, but entire chains directing people to whatsapp numbers.

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

I am not referring to a like to dislike ration, I am referring to a dislike to view ratio. YouTube should bury those from recommendations.

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago

And maybe stop making comments help the video get more popular

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago
[-] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 months ago

Better title: “YouTube is cracking down on click bait - here’s how”

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"5 ways YouTube is cracking down on clickbait – #3 will make you shid and fard and cum your pants"

[-] Lanusensei87@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

YouTube tried to crack down on clickbait, what happened next will shock you!

[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Thumbnail:

They're doing WHAT!?! --->

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[-] dan@upvote.au 60 points 2 months ago

Shout out to DeArrow, from the same developer as SponsorBlock. It replaces video titles and thumbnails with community-provided non-clickbait versions. Available as a browser extension, and is also built-in to several third-party YouTube apps, such as SmartTube.

[-] dax@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

I feel a bit conflicted about that, do I want that extension to hide the terrible clickbaity titles and thumbnails? For me that's a good reason to not watch these videos in the first place

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[-] konomikitten 60 points 2 months ago

YouTube is clickbait. This is like them saying they're going to crack down on their own advertising model.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago
[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

They either look like they need to shit or are eating an invisible popsicle

[-] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

YouTube ruined Christmas. I can't stand my relatives anymore, they watch every conspiracy clip and now they are a thousand miles down the rabbit hole and I can't handle them for more than a few days a year. I hate evil Google or alphabet, or whatever they call themselves.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Smells like PR copy parading as news, what click bait was actually removed vs what they said they would? What's the criteria to qualify as click bait?

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[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Like, we will be able to make negative feedback about a video again? Oh no nevermind it's just bs again...

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 11 points 2 months ago

What the hell is wrong with the people here? Actual positive news for a while and what does Lemmy have to say? Complaining and cynicism. No wonder you're so miserable all the time.

[-] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 months ago

For years, every update YouTube has had has made the platform worse. I think its valid to doubt this will improve anything. That being said, I agree with you. Lemmy as a whole needs to calm down a bit and stop being so damn negative about everything.

[-] LiamTheBox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Bait homosapien do not engage

[-] essteeyou@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I haven't seen any of the usual self-righteous "I only use self-hosted video services" comments in here yet though.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

*Only directly misleading clickbait. So they'll continue to promote other forms of clickbait like specific thumbnails or capitalized & ambiguous titles.

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[-] iopq@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Sure, as soon as X cracks down on misinformation

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

About time. This stuff has been cancer on YouTube for years.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Misleading titles and thumbnails are against YouTube terms of service for as long as I can remember. Those are options to select when reporting videos.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

What? Most likely in favor of more profitable clickbait.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I won't be happy until they ban shocked Pikachu "show us your O face" thumbnails.

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