They've been working on a COVID vaccine since the SARS epidemic, but that fact won't stop the stupid.
Also, cancer isn’t one disease but a whole class of diseases. And we actually do have vaccines that prevent certain forms of cancer, like the HPV vaccine.
I WONT LET MY KID GET THE HPV VACCINE. IT MEANS THEY CAN HAVE SEX WITH NO CONSEQUENCES
Ma'am, pregnancy is still a consequence of sex as you obviously should know after having 5 kids.
Also, the amount of computational power that was made available for COVID research was recorded breaking.
If you were on Folding@home at that time, they couldn't get enough WU out fast enough for a while. Gamers really showed up and helped.
The thing that bothers me the most about (mostly right-wing) anti-covid propaganda is that they use the argument that it was rushed to market. The vaccines were rushed to market thanks to an FDA emergency provision that removed a lot of the "red tape" that companies normally have to go through to get any medical item into the hands and/or bodies of consumers.
So many right-wing politicians campaign on the promise of removing red tape and getting rid of these things that protect all of us. This is literally what they say they want.
Chalk another one up for right wing hypocrisy, I suppose...
Chalk another one up for right wing hypocrisy, I suppose...
The only right wing value is the acquisition of power and influence, that's why they don't hold to any position, they will just stand wherever benefits them the most in that moment.
you raise a good point. we still don't have vaccines for broken legs either. this puts the reality of all other supposed vaccines into further doubt.
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/s in case that wasn't clear
The worst part about this is that the MRNA tech used in the COVID vaccine was developed specifically to make cancer vaccines.
And mRNA vaccine technology has been advancing for decades. It's disingenuous to suggest that "it only took ten months."
There were also early coronavirus vaccines being developed with mRNA tech to fight SARS and MERS. I have a friend who got the MERS vaccine as part of a test group.
Why the fuck are these idiots so weirdly obsessed with Gates. He's a fuckin' retired OS monger, not a supermegapolyscientist
His foundation is heavily invested in vaccinating populations in the global south. On paper at least – I don't trust billionaires or their foundations, most of it is tax evasion anyway.
Say what you want about bill gates, but that guy is the second highest donor to the world health organization, only behind the USA (yes, the country). Beats even all the other countries
Because if you notice, the conspiracy theories tell them to hate anyone that's mildly helpful to humanity and celebrate sociopaths like Trump. Gates isn't perfect but as far as philanthropy related work, he did some decent things sometimes.
There are two reasons for no AIDS vaccine: 1) it’s very hard to make a vaccine for a virus that targets the immune system and 2) it’s very hard to make a vaccine for a virus that is primarily associated with a group that one political party has a contingent that wants that group dead
More on 2: even though it's also transmitted via blood transfusions and other "innocent" ways, the main transmission risks are unprotected sex and shared needles when using drugs.
No way conservative, religious countries are putting up a grand effort to find a vaccine for promiscuous young people and drug users either, even if they aren't gay.
https://www.hiv.gov/blog/encouraging-first-in-human-results-for-a-promising-hiv-vaccine/
An HIV vaccine is in human trials
They found a 100% effective way to place microchips on our bodies within just 10 months? Damn, I didn't know science had advanced that much.
Ignorance appears to be like rabies in at least one way, once it rots enough of your brain you become fearful of anything and everything around you.
I’ve come to think that stupidity is the default condition of humans. And I don’t mean in the sense of “you start off not possessing much knowledge.” I mean stupidity, not ignorance.
If you study some evolution and anthropology, you learn that the brain is an incredibly expensive organ. Most life forms opt for a lower level of intelligence that’s good enough to get some food in their face and their genitals where they need to go. The brain is a massive risk and it’s miraculous how it’s managed to pay off in our case.
Still, thinking is hard work. I think most people would rather do hard physical labor than actually think hard about something difficult. The brain itself functions like a shortcut machine, too. It doesn’t do hard calculations on where that tennis ball is going to bounce. It makes a “good enough” guess, and that’s it. People instinctively look at what other people are doing because it’s so much easier to let your neighbor figure it out and then copy them. And, yes, people love to subscribe to a worldview, political position, or belief set that someone else is selling and just let them do all the big thinking for them.
You could look at it as willful self deprivation, and it is, but I think it’s also just the basic gravity of pure resource management constantly pulling people down into lower levels of mental activity. Thinking takes a tremendous amount of energy.
In fact, there are vaccines against some cancer types. There's a virus, which is responsible for almost all womb cancer cases. Here in Germany, the vaccine is free, if you're under 20 iirc.
The HPV vaccine will pretty much make cirvical cancer a thing of the past too.
I'm mad, but for the wrong reason. I'm mad we haven't invested enough in research for cures to other things.
AIDS treatment has changed a lot though. It’s not the wasting death sentence it used to be.
Cancer is a trickier beast, because it’s so essential to what we are. Very closely tied to aging. But cancer treatment has changed a lot too. There are actually some cancers which are highly treatable and in some cases eliminated with a single shot. Look up Rituxan.
One of the worst parts is that there are many valid reasons to criticize Bill Gates with regards to the COVID vaccine (mainly as it pertains to his intellectual property crusade leading to a few companies getting to dictate the rollout and screwing over the Global South in the process), but it's all drowned out by these idiots screaming about microchips.
Both my parents didn't want the vaccine because they were scared of side effects. Both of them have multiple chronic diseases . My dad lungs are basically dead from chaine smoking for 50+ years. They miraculously survived getting coronavirus twice.....
I mean there's been so much research towards AIDS that it's not the death sentence that it was in the 80s.
However, there probably would have been even more progress had Reagan not stifled progress
Vaccines are typically meant to protect against viruses or bacteria. Cancer is neither of those. hiv is a virus but the political will to produce effective treatments was not always there. I think a lot of young people underestimate the homophobia that was pervasive not all that long ago and how it was tied to the aids epidemic.
How can they even compare them? Nobody even suggested that COVID is similar to the other two. Cancer isn't even a virus and left to their own devices COVID is probably the less dangerous one.
Also cancer isn't just a single disease, there are multiple conditions that can lead to cancer and they all have different chances of survival.
Actually, you're wrong on that "Nobody even suggested that COVID is similar" remark. Nobody credible, or Nobody who knows what they're talking about and not lying, then sure, you're probably right. However antivaxers and disingenuous scientists absolutely have been doing that since covid was discovered.
Knowledge Fight is a podcast that critically analyzes Alex Jones and a few other grifters, and during 2020 and beyond they had so many lies and fake studies. One of Jones's big talking points was that COVID was a manufactured virus with HIV inserts, which originally came from a discredited, retracted, and non-peer reviewed study out of India that suggested such a thing. Another link: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Caixin/Scientists-slam-Indian-study-that-fueled-coronavirus-rumors
Despite the retraction, bad actors don't care. They got a "study" and headline to confirm their beliefs, so they just act like retraction never happened and just lie lie lie. Echo chambers allows this to run unchecked, and then you have people believing they're equal.
I like how they just added those question marks with a pen
The best thing for my family was that we were in St Jude with our daughter while the rest of the world lost their minds. I was able to speak directly to Infectious Disease doctors that had nothing to do with anything but researching for cancer patients. They had worked with the original doctors for the Covid vaccine, and how long it had been in development as we learned more about the disease. People were just going off ignorance. Just because you don't know, doesn't mean everyone else is trying to lie to you.
I thought we were all supposed to drop dead in 2 years, the cookers were all banging on about that at one point when they weren't punching horses and thinking the government used laser weapons on them and not that they got sunburnt from spending the day in the sun "protesting"
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