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Leasing inmates (slrpnk.net)

No state has a longer, more profit-driven history of contracting prisoners out to private companies than Alabama. With a sprawling labor system that dates back more than 150 years — including the brutal convict leasing era that replaced slavery — it has constructed a template for the commercialization of mass incarceration.

Most jobs are inside facilities, where the state’s inmates — who are disproportionately Black — can be sentenced to hard labor and forced to work for free doing everything from mopping floors to laundry. But more than 10,000 inmates have logged a combined 17 million work hours outside Alabama’s prison walls since 2018, for entities like city and county governments and businesses that range from major car-part manufacturers and meat-processing plants to distribution centers for major retailers like Walmart, the AP determined.

https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-alabama-3b2c7e414c681ba545dc1d0ad30bfaf5

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 190 points 6 months ago

It's legal per the 13th Amendment.

Doesn't make it right, and it says a lot about how little both parties value human rights that it's allowed to stand.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 72 points 6 months ago

Oh, that's nothing. Ever wonder who tough on crime legislation actually benefits, and who's lobbying for it?

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Yeah it was written that way in order to have slaves with extra steps

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[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 159 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, convict leasing was designed to be a direct replacement for slavery. It was used that way right after slavery ended when you could arrest a black person for anything you could think of. No job? Arrested, leased. No home? Arrested, leased. Etc....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict_leasing

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 81 points 6 months ago

So slavey never ended! Cool cool. Totally not a corporate dictatorship masquerading as a democracy...

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

the laws never pretended it ended. the thirteenth ammendment very plainly allows it:

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

emphasis mine. it never said you can't have slavery any more, it just said if you're gonna do slavery you have to convict someone first.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 22 points 6 months ago

That’s how propagandized Americans are. lmfao They act as if this is some shadowy hidden part of our culture

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

It's not like you'd expect people to be closely acquainted with an obscure legal document like the constitution.

Oh, wait...

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Yup, it never ended, it just rebranded
I believe it's called neoslavery, I think the last privately (legally) owned slave was released in 1946 if i recall correctly, now the only legal slavery is prisons

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[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago

Dylan roof got Burger King and Luigi is facing terrorism charges and the death penalty.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 99 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yep. And it’s perfectly legal, because the US never banned slavery.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

I think we’re one of the only countries in the world who still has legal slavery. Pretty awful.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

Anytime you see one of those “silly laws” - stuff about not being able to ride a horse on Sunday or whatever - that’s why. “Vagrancy” laws were basically put in place to funnel black men into legal enslavement.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 6 months ago

Why do they call it "land of the free" again?

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Cognitive dissonance. Discrimination is illegal, so obviously anyone who experiences it is crazy or lying. Clearly, they should have just followed the law against selling loose cigarettes if they didn’t want to die.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

For the same reason narcissists like to say they're the best.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 81 points 6 months ago

"dates back more than 150 years"

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Interesting timeframe

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Meet the new boss. 🎵

Same as the old boss🎵

[-] beliquititious 22 points 6 months ago

Literally in some cases recently freed slaves were arrested for being black and leased back to the same locations where they were enslaved to the same people.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

That’s where our tireless and dedicated police force got started, the racism hasn’t gone anywhere they just have better toys now

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 43 points 6 months ago

America calling slavery slavery challenge impossible!

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

Last year I have been learning we are doing everything from the slavery era. It only got renamed.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

It had a PR campaign, but it's still here. That 13th amendment needs to be amended anew

[-] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago

And you know that small businesses and independent establishments aren't seeing one minute of that free prison labor under their roof. It's all going to large companies with connections to government.

I'm not arguing that either should benefit from effective slave labor, but the fact that the biggest players get this insane advantage just rubs extra salt in the wound.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 37 points 6 months ago

Oh this is delicious. Keep in mind they hate abortion and hate sexual education. It's not a conspiracy any more. They want the poor to be uneducated and reproductive to have a jailed bottom slave minority.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

You can hate other empires as well, and I do, but the US has the largest prison population on Earth, and that isn't even per capita. 2 million prisoners. We should all be ashamed of that.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 months ago

I'm pretty sure you can say it's the largest prison system in history. This documentary from 2015 is named that: https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/biggest-prison-system-history/

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Wait, could I move to the US and rent a sexy inmate for my mansion? To parade in front of my geek friends? And play video games with?

(I mean I'd cruelly punish him of course, being in the US, like I wouldn't put any toppings on his ice cream, or something unusually painful, or whatever the law says you have to do).

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[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 months ago

If you don't want slavery, then make it illegal. Maybe even make a constitutional amendment.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago
[-] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Trump's "black jobs." We all knew what he meant.

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[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago

"Work makes free", was written on the german concentration camps entries.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

please be satire, please be satire, please be satire

[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

I'm sorry to say the Prison-Industrial Complex is a huge problem, and part of why this country has some of the highest incarceration rates in the world 🙁

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Companies like Bob Barker (not the tv one) and Sysco are quietly making mountains of cash to supply all those “leasable” inmates with the lowest possible quality food and toiletries. I would love to see a political candidate campaign on repealing the 13th amendment, I doubt it’ll happen any time soon but one can hope.

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[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 months ago

You must not be American - the thirteenth amendment codifies slavery and involuntary servitude into the constitution.

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[-] LateGreatHannibalLecter@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Alabama is a very cruel and inhumane place full of borderline retarded sociopaths. And stupid-ass rednecks and women who look like a 5 but think they're a 10. Mouth breathing morons in pickup trucks. A baptist church on every corner. Bojangles. Arresting people for smoking THCA that was legally bought from a gas station and charging them with marijuana possession and posting their mugshot all over the internet (happened to me). Cops who've known each other since kindergarten who peaked in high school and think at a third grade level. Hostility towards outsiders wrapped in a thin veneer of southern "hospitality". Backstabbing gossipy little bitches, men included, everywhere you look. Nobody means what they say. If they act nice to you, it means they don't like you. Many of them get off on taunting and tormenting other people. Football. Trees, lots of trees. There are diseases lurking you would expect to find in a developing country. The state is third world tier all around. The people are fundamentally malicious. Let's see what else.... Oh yeah they all look inbred as fuck.

[-] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Ok, so many things to unpack here. First, it's important to remember that these kinds of issues are very much systematic. You can't point your finger at one person or even one state and say that they are the issue. The issue here is deep seated racism in the United States, legalized slavery that is literally written into the US constitution. And Alabama being a poor state filled with uneducated people is not those people's fault. It again comes back to racism and other huge issues of inequality. It's best to have some curiosity. Why is Alabama full of these issues? Is it because people are different there? Probably not, it's not like evolution works that fast on a geographic area that isn't isolated. So you have to ask why, and look for the self perpetuating power dynamics. Second, insulting one group of people by referencing another group using a slur damages both groups. People with intellectual and developmental disabilities are vulnerable to discrimination and exploitation. Let's not try to solve the problem of racism by deepening the problem of ableism. We have to work on it all at the same time. Power structures arise because one group exploits vulnerabilities in another. When you put down a whole group of people, it is likely because you feel that lack of powerlessness that comes with being in a hierarchy, and you're acquiring power for yourself by rendering others less powerful than you. This isnt a moral failing on your part, instead, I would say that it's an ineffective strategy that only serves to further entrench the hierarchy and your place in it. Instead, let's work to equalize everyone, lifting up everyone to the same height.

OK thanks for listening.

[-] LateGreatHannibalLecter@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh, you want to lecture me huh? Alright, well I guess it's easy to take the moral high ground when you aren't the one trapped in a small town where everybody is playing a game of telephone and you're the target. I'm well aware of the systemic issues and it only makes me hate them even more knowing that the vast majority of them perpetuate the injustices that I am now a victim of. When I see these people smiling and laughing with their families I know that just beneath that there is a viciousness that could just as easily be pointed in my direction depending on the context. They have no empathy or awareness for the collateral damage their insular "society" inflicts on me, just insults and mockery. Absolute vileness. These people make my life a living hell every time I leave the house. They are like a bottomless well of venom and malice and they always have a way of making it known to me in the subtlest and most passive- aggressive ways. Let me tell you, I did not know the meaning of hate before I came here. I do now. They taught me very well.

And you know what? Trump will give them everything they deserve. I think I'm starting to warm up to the guy for that reason alone. 30 days, assholes. Tick tock.

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[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Really de-incentivises paroling inmates when they're a source of revenue...

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 7 points 6 months ago

I thought slavery was bad for capitalism? is this a way to pay people less and have the government pay for their life instead of them?

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 8 points 6 months ago

Publicise costs, privatise profits!

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