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[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Anti cheat with kernel privileges? no, thanks.

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[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

i have no problem with privileged code or trusted computer code as long as it's open source, open protocols and managed by an open foundation of some sort

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Serious question, how does this work on Linux when using wine? Elden ring uses this one and it runs in Linux. It doesn't have kernel access does it?

[-] ElectroLisa 34 points 10 months ago

EAC on Linux uses special runtime usually provided by Steam and it runs in userspace. However, developers have to whitelist said runtime and that's where the issue is

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 70 points 10 months ago

You can't solve cheating on the client.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago

Exactly. But it's the cheapest solution for the studio/publisher and most gamers blindly accept it, with some even actively defending the practice.

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 14 points 10 months ago

It is also insecure with possiblity to crash your computer, the only advantage is that it is cheap.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

It's also easy.

[-] Lemmchen@feddit.org 4 points 10 months ago

I don't think there's a way to solve it on the server either.

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

There absolutely is, it just takes effort. Many MMOs do this, and as a result almost all of them are playable on linux.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Solving it on the client is literally impossible, solving it on the server is difficult and could be impossible, big difference.

It's like someone trying to send a car to the moon by pulling the steering wheel. It's impossible, the fact that building a rocket is hard or that you don't know how to do it or that it could fail has no bearing on the fact that trying to pull the steering wheel on a car is definitely the wrong way to go about it.

In the same manner solving cheating on the client is the same kind of impossible, anyone defending it sounds like a flat-earther to anyone with the basic knowledge of client/server architecture.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yep and drm is a similarly impossible thing that many put on their best grown up faces and pretend is real.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago

Stop giving EA money. It's not that hard. I haven't given them money for 10 years.

[-] captain_oni 1 points 10 months ago

Same, I stopped giving them money exactly 10 years ago, since they killed Dawngate, my beloved.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Simple solution. Don't buy those games.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

Boycott PUBG and Rainbow Six Siege

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

No problem for me.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

In a never-ending arms race what can they hope to achieve by imprisoning a minority just in case they're more likely to be a spy?

Would like to see attempts to approach cheating in a non-hopeless way.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Isn't it sus there is no Open Source Anti-Cheat Solution and most of them are proprietary( I am fine with proprietary software but just wondering about this) + I wonder if in the future EAC or Battle Eye will force the user to Install DKMS modules.

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