156
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by merridew@feddit.uk to c/unitedkingdom@feddit.uk

The hospital's top manager demanded the doctors write an apology to Letby and told them to stop making allegations against her

"Two consultants were ordered to attend mediation with Letby, even though they suspected she was killing babies

"On 29 June 2016, one of the consultants sent an email under the subject line: "Should we refer ourselves to external investigation?"

"I believe we need help from outside agencies," he wrote. "And the only agency who can investigate all of us, I believe, is the police.*

all 26 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 56 points 1 year ago

The management team had also failed to report the deaths appropriately. It meant the wider NHS system could not spot the high fatality rates. The board of the hospital trust was also unaware of the deaths until July 2016.

This is devastating. Monitoring systems were set up after Harold Shipman, to make sure that such clear signals of something untoward would not be missed in future. Hospital management appear to have subverted those systems to protect their own reputations.

[-] plain_and_simply@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago

We have to name and shame them! Ian Harvey - medical director Stephen Cross - legal Karen Rees - duty executive Tony chambers - ceo Alison Kelly

They all killed babies

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That is why capitalism is fundamentally stupid. It rewards the slimiest, not the best.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The NHS is not capitalist, it's a centralised government managed health system.

[-] RemembertheApollo@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Just goes to show you that any system can be subverted, however, in the capitalist system the subversion is often profitable with minimal consequences for the recipients of the profits. Yay, capitalism (/s).

[-] merridew@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

Mate if you want to moan about capitalism in healthcare go and find an American community on Lemmy.

It's still capitalism's fault even though I have no idea how

[-] Schal330@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They needed to maintain their reputation in order to keep their jobs and stay on this hamster wheel?

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

So - who profited in case? Or are you just riding your hobbyhorse into the middle of an unrelated story

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Capitalism doesn't have much to do with this at all. Like others have said, the NHS is a state run organization. If you want to turn this into a political issue (it really isn't, and isn't appropriate given the context) you should be criticizing the state and inneffective, malicious hierarchical power structures

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Keep telling yourself that while it's slowly dismantled for profits.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

France has the best health system in Europe with a mix of public and private providers.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

What are you talking about?

[-] merridew@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

This is a publicly funded NHS hospital.

And before anyone makes any assumptions, I am not suggesting that's a bad thing.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Is it using capitalist business practices internally?

[-] merridew@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Please tell me what you mean by "capitalist business practices".

"Ignoring warnings" is not a character flaw unique to "capitalists".

[-] Hogger85@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

It really isn't this is the similar to say state run nuclear plants...face saving.

I fully.support the NHS method as think it good value (if not starved of funding). But have to admit all systems can have flaws.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

and why is it being dismantled? To replace it with a for-profit system...

Why would America do this?

[-] Spacebar@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

6 babies died in one year, and she was on duty for all of them. Since she stopped caring for patience, there has been 1 death in 7 years.

Normally, there is one death every two years.

[-] noride@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then management is complicit, and should also face charges.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Hospital bosses failed to investigate allegations against Lucy Letby and tried to silence doctors, the lead consultant at the neonatal unit where she worked has told the BBC.

They say the head of corporate affairs and legal services, Stephen Cross, warned that calling the police would be a catastrophe for the hospital and would turn the neonatal unit into a crime scene.

Rather than go to the police, Mr Harvey invited the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Heath (RCPCH) to review the level of service on the neonatal unit.

A few weeks later, in late January 2017, the seven consultants on the neonatal unit were summoned to a meeting with senior managers, including Mr Harvey and the hospital's CEO Tony Chambers.

When a new medical director and deputy chief executive, Dr Susan Gilby, began work the month after Letby's arrest, she was shocked at what she found.

She says her predecessor, Mr Harvey, had warned her she would need to pursue action with the General Medical Council, the doctor's regulator, against the neonatal unit's consultants - those who had raised the alarm.


The original article contains 2,318 words, the summary contains 183 words. Saved 92%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

Pencil necked desk jockeys act like pencil necked desk jockeys

this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2023
156 points (100.0% liked)

United Kingdom

4082 readers
264 users here now

General community for news/discussion in the UK.

Less serious posts should go in !casualuk@feddit.uk or !andfinally@feddit.uk
More serious politics should go in !uk_politics@feddit.uk.

Try not to spam the same link to multiple feddit.uk communities.
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric news, and should be either a link to a reputable source, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread.

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS