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Interesting analogy
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Does this also apply to Native Americans or...?
Native Americans have a different claim. They are not claiming their ancestors give them the right to use the land. They have agreements with the US government. The US then promptly turned around and ignored their promises. The native Americans have the receipts.
Agreements about historical land ownership only apply to white people!
Hungarian ultra-nationalists: "Since your kind was under my ancestor's rule, you have to rejoin my country and learn my language, or else you're a [incoherent antisemitic screaming]!"
There's a guy in southwest England whose family didn't leave the village for 9000 years.
Even better is that the guy is 42 with no kids. I get that we all technically have ancestry that goes back to the first life on the planet, but this guy suddenly happens to have verified family lineage that goes back farther than any other human on the entire planet... And he's the last one.
I pray that he consciously chose not to have kids... I know how soul destroying it can be to want to have kids but not be able to. But this guy... He suddenly, because someone needed a warm body to fill out their numbers to a nice round number, is directly confronted by a family lineage 9000 years old. And he's the last. What an absolute mind fuck.
H-how did they get spouses? Nevermind, I probably don't want to know.
Spouses can move to the village, it's just that the children never leave.
At least one parent was born in the village.
Inbreeding mastery level: British
"Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his inbreeding levels?"
"IT'S OVER 9000 YEARS!"
You forgot the part where the komodo dragon's "promised land" was full of Phoenician Canaanites they had to genocide first.
You mean "was full of tasty snacks".
Imagine Mongolia just started invading China and be like "MY ANCESTORS USED TO LIVE HERE"
Imagine the Australians descending on London like "Oh yea nah me bluddy rellys is fully from here aye!"
I would support that. After that Australia can join the EU, and they're already in Eurovision.
And maybe do something about the TERF infestation.
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I love it when the folks attempting to talk down to everyone else don't know how history worked or how all those lines get drawn on the map.
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so you blame the brits, then, for selling the land twice?
your comment is ambiguous: are you insulting my opinion or the other opinion? I need to know so I can act accordingly
Birds: Um, akshully, we're more closely related than you are!
They probably looked a lot more like birds than reptiles too because taxonomically speaking birds are actually dinosaurs.
Chickens 100% are just mini T-rexes.
Cassowaries make a lot more sense when seeing T-Rex like that.
The problem is that this argument can really be made both ways. If someone said Israel shouldn't exist because Palestinians used to live there before that, that's just essentially the same argument.
Israel shouldn't exist because it's a colonial apartheid state perpetrating a genocide. That doesn't mean every non-palestinian has to leave either.
Yep, maybe they could have a big fight, winner takes all.
Neither argument hold any merit and is an example of the tyranny of history. Who cares what a bunch of dead assholes thought was theirs? The people who live there (not the politicians who pretend to represent their interests) are the only people that have any legitimate claim to authority on what should be done about the region.
It is especially meritless to equate people who claim the land based on other people sharing their religion having lived there a thousand years ago, with people whose grandparents got kicked out of their houses and who've had to live in an open air prison ever since while being subjected to regular attempts at ethnic cleansing.
But saying that Israel shouldn't exist doesn't mean that the Israelis have to leave
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The irony would be even greater if they were kicking out birds who they accused of displacing the ancient Dinosaurs.
In my world understanding colonialism was never good, but anything after ww2 is just invalid. There needs to be some cut off date where we say "at this point everyone knew and we had international laws against genocide" after which it just becomes invalid and any land claimed afterwards is not recognized or supported.
Israel was definitely too late to the colonial party and kinda should be considered illegitimate.
A little convenient that the cutoff date is after Europeans divided the world for themselves.
Saw an excellent video from some Al Jazeera offshoot yesterday. The guy was explaining the concept that Europeans actually tended to put in minority populations in charge that were sympathetic to their interests - Alawites in Syria, the Hashemite monarchy in Jordan, European Zionists in Palestine - and that the borders were essentially designed for colonial administration instead of representing existing groups.
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