Authorities are desperately trying to make an example of someone, anyone with a motive. Turns out more than half the country has one.
I’m the one who killed the dude actually. Remember? You were there. ;)
So I wore a hoodie and wore a mask. I also smiled once on CCTV. Am I the secret assassin?
the way they portray him and the tone of the whole thing is just so fucking slimy
"Do you realize how much money the wealthy are losing right now?"
"OMG how could a person born into wealth that is clearly incredibly intelligent, ever think about doing something like this? There are better ways to slowly let millions of people die over denied coverage and ignore it. How could he."
They're now also blaming Among Us for training him into an assassin, apparently.
LOL “quick, do the ‘it was video games!’ distraction “
So thin and weak
UnitedHealth Group has lost $45 billion in value since CEO Killing
"Do you realize how much the wealthy are losing right now?"
Clearly, not nearly enough.
Turns out more than half the country has one.
Turns out your new president kinda wants to put that half in shackles, too.
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
Prosecutors, man. Acting like he had a fucking radio jammer or something.
There have been plenty of articles in popular media recommending Faraday bags for electronic devices. I have them for credit cards and car keys. It's definitely not evidence of criminal intent.
Interfering with corporate profits! How dare you, filthy plebe!
Shit, any Subaru owner probably has an RFID bag for when they go car camping and don't want to wake up to a dead battery.
A LOT of yesterday's arrest is REALLY suspicious. Dude who could easily have fled the country (for a lot of reasons) and had done such a great job of covering his tracks is sitting in a mickey d's with his murder weapon and a manifesto.
But... a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but...) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell. Which... uh doy? And he is mostly focused on the money (super easy to plant) and the "faraday bag".
As for the faraday bag? A LOT of dry bags (an internal bag you put electronics and valuables into if you are going to hike in the rain or go rafting/boating) have a metal mesh. Because they need to withstand abrasians either from being near other gear (you would be shocked how much jagged metal is in a backpack when you go on a proper alpine overnight) or just being able to survive falling overboard and bouncing on the end of a rope in rapids. And guess what a metal mesh does?
So he presumably got a dry bag of some form to stash his personal shit in while he stashed the second backpack. And I know plenty of hikers and climbers who learn the fun way that the phone they carried "in case someone needs to get a hold of me" had zero signal the entire time it was protected from the rain.
Why would someone this meticulous keep the gun that's could have been ditched? Write out a memefesto like two hours before being caught? Wear the same clothes that could've also been directed or burned? This feels like a patsy.
Because, as many of us pointed out, he was never some super meticulous hitman. He exhibited basic knowledge of firearms and got his stalker on like the ceo what got got was a pretty girl who asked to borrow a pencil that one time in biology class. The rest was taking a bus and wearing a face mask most of the time. It was inevitable that he would be caught unless he fled the country.
Mostly this just highlighted how incompetent cops are. And... might be used to further efforts to just use computer vision and rudimentary "AI" to process security camera footage in the future.
As for why he would keep his gun on him? The manifesto kind of says it all (and, to my knowledge, Luigi has not disputed THAT aspect of it). He wanted to get caught. Probably after making it clear he could have escaped if he wanted to (because getting on a flight out of the US would have been trivial).
To be clear. If he were to have disputed the gun and manifesto I would VERY rapidly be on the side of "cops are planting shit yet again'. But the fact that he hasn't (to my knowledge) while disputing other potentially planted or misinterpreted evidence puts the kibosh on that.
From the article:
Although a host of eyewitness accounts and video camera footage recorded Mangione’s movements before and after Thompson was killed in New York City on Wednesday, police said they were unable to locate him until a McDonald’s employee identified the suspect at a Pennsylvania franchise nearly a week later.
They should have said "the suspect's movements" or "the shooter's movements". Not "Mangione's movements". They are already presuming guilt by saying it was Mangione who was recorded. Newspapers used to be careful about doing this. I think they can be sued for defamation for this, can't they?
Looks like they are trying hard to rebrand the guy image by publishing pictures where he looks off. How i'm supposed to believe the government has no plan against the people when they pull stunt like this?
Fox news is saying people are supporting him because he's handsome and we're all a bunch of shallow morons.
Completely leaving out the fact that that CEO and others like him make decisions everyday to let people suffer and/or die for profit. To buy more yachts or whatever the fuck excessively affluent people do with money. Wipe their ass with it? Use the money from dead cancer patients who hit their lifetime maximum coverage to delicately pat their hemorrhoids clean maybe?
The media is trying so hard to spin this I hope they all get carpal tunnel from typing out all those half truths and outright lies. Then they have their claims for quality of life giving surgery denied. Then maybe they'll get it.
I'm not convinced either way whether or not he's the culprit, but I certainly don't trust the authorities to give him a fair trial.
It seriously would be dismissed as a movie plot due to being too unrealistic..
Luigi needs to shut the everloving fark up and let his lawyer do the talking for him. The cops are trolling him with fake evidence and he's falling for it.
"The gun WASN'T a 32 caliber, it was a 22 rimfire!" etc, etc.
This is the correct answer. If you are arrested by police for ANY REASON, the only word in your vocabulary is now "lawyer". Remember kids, anything you say or do will be used against you.
"I invoke my right to remain silent and have a lawyer."
It sucks, but sometimes you have to explicitly state you are exercising your rights. Just staying silent doesn't mean they won't stop pestering you with questions. Make it clear and concise that that you are demanding your lawyer be present and any further questioning done should be in violation of that right. But you have to make it clear you are invoking it.
They definitely put way more effort into this shooting than any of the others that happened on the same day. Obviously the police are looking for a scapegoat
He hasn’t said he didn’t do it, at least that we have heard. He’s just saying that a lot of the evidence is incorrect. The money is a flight risk, so they can argue to hold without bail. The manifesto, if it’s a plant, is to make him look “crazy,” so people distance (haha, backfire). And the faraday nonsense is to suggest that an ankle monitor would be of no use, so also no bail.
It’s all about holding him at this point.
A computer programmer with a common cyber security countermeasure you can buy on Amazon indicates criminal sophistication?
Sure Jan.
Our incoming president is a convicted felon and RAPIST who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election.
The rule of law doesn't mean shit anymore.
I could give 2 fucks if this guy lies through his teeth to get off the hook. Go for it bro.
My ez-pass transponder came with a faraday bag - clearly ez-pass is a criminal organization
A former employer handed out branded faraday phone and wallet bags as a tchotchke- I must have worked for organized crime.
Oh no, passport faraday bags are all over Amazon - clearly criminal and needs to be shut down
Yeah, prosecutors are really trying to smear this guy to look dangerous. Try harder. An RF-blocking bag is just to prevent theft, hacking and protect privacy. I'm a bit confident he's the guy but I can't say beyond a reasonable doubt given the circumstances and how the police are incentivised to frame anyone.
Since news reports keep jumping around between a McDonald's customer and a McDonald's employee offering the tip, every inconsistency will only bolster this guy's case. I can make guesses that this guy wanted to get caught or was a little sloppy, but if he says otherwise then finding everything including the gun is a little suspicious. Get him the best lawyer in the biz, I'm sure crowdfunding will cover it many times over.
It makes perfect sense for this to be a frame up because one of the incriminating items was a "Recently Used Ghost Gun", a cheaply made 3D Printed gun that leaves no special marking on the bullet and can only really be used once. They are made to be used for crimes and discarded quickly, which is why some congressmen want to see restrictions on 3D Printers.
This raises an interesting question: How the fuck is he dumb enough not to dispose of the gun that was meant to be disposed? And has two answers: He's just that fucking stupid or The evidence was planted
He had Ill will against corporate America, nobody would have that unless they were the killer! Sick evidence coppers!
What if you find shooter's backpack ditched in park with jacket, gun, silencer, and fake ID used at hostel, but say it only had a jacket and monopoly money. And say that the guy probably left the state on a bus. Now you can pretty much do anything you want with any plausible-looking guy in the country you want.
I'm just asking questions! Also, most of the bags and purses you see for sale these days have a "faraday" phone bag or pocket in them, no level of sophistication required.
Step 1 - Have an AI scrape social media looking for someone similar looking who has posted negative things about the insurance Industry.
Step 2 - sprinkle crack on them
Step 3 - ????
Step 4 - record breaking profits for health insurance corporations every year forever and ever and ever
This could be a scapegoat
But this could also be the perpetrator claiming he's a scapegoat, which is probably the best way to get a Jury to acquit, just plant doubts.
I'm gonna say that this is probably the actual perpetrator and I guess he was planning on more targets, but got caught before he could do more "deposing".
If the police did this, that’s not surprising, but they are really stupid.
This case is going to be under a microscope like an inverted OJ trial, and every bit of police misconduct is ammunition for his lawyers
Imagine the uproar if this guy gets away on a technicality… it would be a national celebration, lol.
Where these just common mistakes? Made by the same person who succeeded at avoiding so many others? But if he was trying to turn himself in, getting arrested at McDonalds doesn't seem like the method I would have chosen. Was he trying for suicide by police?
I'm leaning on the side of a normal human 'on the run' and making normal mistakes. But there is enough to make me doubt that.
Also if they ever make a movie out of this, James Franco's brother Dave Franco has a passing resemblance.
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