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submitted 7 months ago by AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Probably the first article in a while that clearly outlines WHERE the negations are at and what each side wants.

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 35 points 7 months ago

I'm pretty reliant on Canada Post so I'd really like them to pay the workers what they're owed.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

I’m pretty reliant on Canada Post so I’d really like them to pay the workers what they’re owed.

OK but what is the difference between OWED and WANT? I was looking at listings for Canada post positions and they apparently already made living wages in most markets AND have pensions on top of that?

Without all the numbers it is speculation.

However Canada post is NOT tax payer funded it is a for profit entity that has been in a death spiral for quite some time not dealing or not being allowed to become more efficient while mail volume keeps dropping.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 22 points 7 months ago

Looks like they want more part time and full time positions to be hired on, plus raises to keep up with inflation.

To me, being a mailman is a hard job that requires a lot of physical and mental labour, it should be very well paid

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No they want to have fewer part time, more full time and all new staff to have pensions.

To me, being a mailman is a hard job that requires a lot of physical and mental labour

It may be physically demanding but not a particularly skilled one.. You have routes, you learn them you haul your load every day. Kind of like a bus driver, warehouse picker or even a retail staffer.. This should be an entry level job geared to the young and able part time that you move on from later.. Not a life long career with a pension.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't want some idiot losing my package. I like Canada posts because it rarely fucks up my delivery - today i have to go far, far out of my way to pick up a purolater package containing medication because the purolater delivery person's brain turns to mush whenever they need to deliver a package to an apartment building.

The Canada Post delivery person who usually delivers to my area has never had that problem, he and he alone apparently has the ability to make it to the 2nd floor where my apartment is located. FedEx/Puralater/UPS have never succeeded when tasked with the same thing, i always end up having to go to a depot across town to pick it up myself with them.

[-] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

I have had Canada post delivery issues as well, particularly in the past they would just dash a pickup notice to my door INSTEAD of knocking or ringing a door bell for packages.. I was CONSTANTLY going to the post office to pick things up that I WAS home for and could have received if they had rang the door bell or knocked even. It really comes down to the individual.

Everyone should be paid fairly but from the info so far I am not convinced the union demands are resonable in this case other than maybe the mat leave request.

[-] tleb@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

To me, being a mailman is a hard job that requires a lot of physical and mental labour, it should be very well paid

This is pure cope.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago

Buzzword buzzword buzzward no need to process thoughts just use buzzword

[-] SamuelRJankis@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

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“I think what we’re seeing now is that there are probably internal negotiations in the union to determine how to move forward,” said Stephanie Ross, a labour studies professor at McMaster University.

That kind of dramatic restructuring makes it far harder to see a clear path to a settlement than if it were only money dividing the two sides, Ross said. “It’s hard to split the difference when you’re talking about expanding the presence of casual and part-time labour.”

The federal government has thus far said it won’t invoke Section 107 of the Canada Labour Code and apply to the Canadian Industrial Relations Board for binding arbitration to end the strike, but that prospect could push both sides back to the table, said Larry Savage, a labour relations professor at Brock University.

The federal government involvement should be properly discussing the future of Canada Post. We're seeing the results of a 11 billion dollar entity stuck in limbo for much longer than it should and the government needs to decide if they want to shrink or expand it's operations.

[-] tleb@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

I think everyone should be paid a lot higher than they are, inflation has been brutal and wages have been relatively stagnant for a long time, but I'm getting really exhausted of this Canada Post strike. They're far and above the best paid unskilled workers, with pensions to boot. I don't want to advocate for a race to the bottom, but when so many people right now are desperate for any work and slave away at shit jobs for minimum wage, the optics of Canada Post strikers screwing people out of passports and gifts during the holidays is just exhausting.

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

I considered going back to using mail to send messages to my family instead of calling or texting them, as i am a very privacy centric person. After seeing how this strike has been handled, i don't know if i can rely on the service.

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