It is crazy that Madison held on to all that for 2 years!

I hope a real independent party looks into all the accusations, while also having the local labor dept. and the like involved in audits. While also looking into other employee complaints.

We shall see what comes of the final investagations, it may take years...

Doubt you’d be saying this if you had ever personally been subjected to workplace harassment of the same endurance and severity.

You’re mixing up chicken and egg here. Victim blaming is a core component of the fucking nightmare of workplace harassment.

I don't think this take is accurate at all. Her actions in that thread appear (to me) entirely as a result of her environment, and honestly there is no basis for the idea she is not of sound mind. The victim blaming is really offputting.

If they're true, it's more than likely this kind of abuse was happening throughout the organization and continued up until these allegations, so I'm glad she came out with them.

Good for you to delete that trashy comment on kbin here. For the record this user, https://kbin.social/u/EnderWi99in , went straight for victim blaming. Users like this run kbin.social at risk of being defederated from the rest of lemmy, your behavior is not tolerated.

Doubt you’d be saying this if you had ever personally been subjected to workplace harassment of the same endurance and severity.

You’re mixing up chicken and egg here. Victim blaming is a core component of the fucking nightmare of workplace harassment.

To be honest, I had a similar experience in a workplace, and I definitely did not have the guts to post it before reading your comment.

It is important to take all accusations seriously, but it is also important to verify.

I have seen baseless accusations getting reported and shared on my previous workplace. It was made to sound like a living hell, and frankly you would have needed to be on a psychotic break to experience it like this. This same employee had pledged on their first day of work to print a chart of conduct and equality that would bind us all. It was very weird to be honest. Unfortunately some people saw the articles and believed every words and felt "betrayed" by my old bosses.

Anyway, here's a disclaimer because everytime I post an anecdote encouraging to be diligent I get replies telling me I am assuming this or that. Let me be clear, I believe Madisson and I would be very surprised if she wasn't abused considering everything. But still, I like to verify, we must always verify. In this case, it means waiting for further development. You can encourage and support the supposed victim while simultaneously not jump to the throat of the accused.

I really hope Elon starts complaining about his baby being deadnamed in the media.

I’m sick and tired of reading this sentence…

Me too, but when I think about it, I realize its necessity

I firmly disagree with this post. People should not just “rely on their instincts,” which have proven time and again to be highly inaccurate and subject to bias. This is starting to look like what those “body language experts” do, and those people have lower accuracy than a coin toss in controlled experiments.

The only reliable way to tell if someone is lying is through actual evidence. What we know so far certainly paints LMG in a bad light, but I will continue to wait for more information to come out.

You should see the WAN Show, their podcast. His co-host always looks nervous to say anything out of turn, they basically just read the next topic that Linus wants to talk about.

Or the time where Linus almost took Jake's fingers out with a hole saw trying to drill holes in a RUNNING PC. Man's a workplace hazard in more ways than one.

Trust me, you weren't missing much.

It is clear that you formed an initial negative impression of this individual based on your perception of their character. However, it is important to note that relying solely on instincts and subjective judgments may not provide an accurate assessment of someone's true character. To assess a person objectively, it would be preferable to observe their actions and gather sufficient evidence before drawing any conclusions. Engaging in a fair and logical evaluation can lead to a more balanced understanding of an individual's nature.

mean lemmy is, like the early days of reddit and digg before it, full of tech enthusiasts.

Linus was one of if not the most successful tech YouTuber. He went from a YouTuber to a tech media empire. I don't know why you'd be surprised that a site that is basically full of his target audience is interested in it.

And honestly this is some awful stuff.

I mean I'm fucking sick of being reminded Trump is a real person, but I'm not surprised by all the coverage of his arrests.

And to add, he held such away with the tech enthusiast community that, if during the reddit fallout, he had come out and talked shit about lemmy under the guise of some list of reasons and pushed for kbin or even some other service entirely then we would likely see a drastic difference in the number of people that joined here.

He used to be one of the most successful tech help youtubers (had whole series on how to fix computer issues and build PC's) and now he runs a company that reviews, tests, and fucks around with tech.

Lemmy is filled with tech enthusiasts. How many people have you met on here that profess they're a "senior dev" or talk about gibberish involving linux? I'm personally surprised there isn't more talk about Linus.

It's easy to belittle their suffering like this, saying they should have left earlier. But there is always a back story to how people getting bullied end up getting victimized longer than they should. If you gave Madison's story more than a cursory look, you would realize that all the classic elements of abusive entrapment were there.

When she accepted the job at LMG, she had jeopardized her visa status in the US and was more or less starting from scratch in a very expensive city in Canada. You would expect the employer to be considerate and supportive of such employees. But LMG insisted that she cancel her patreon account and on representing her (which she says they didn't do at all). They insisted on taking a cut from her earnings too.

And like many other sexual harassment victims, she wasn't in a position to walk away like you say. LMG apparently gaslighted her and made vague threats. They certainly had the power to ruin her life with their somewhat mindless fanbase - and she was right to fear it. Leaving the company without another job would have probably ended her up in the streets - forget lawyering up. I honestly don't think employees in her situation can afford to hire lawyers.

I don't want to completely believe her words because it's still hearsay. That said, the evidence in the public is pointing more to the possibility that she may be telling the truth. But it doesn't help when people just dismiss her saying that she should have stood up for herself. You simply don't understand the position a victim of a vitriolic workplace finds themselves in.

While hurtful and not cool to tell somebody. Im sure a million a people think similar things about a co-worker everyday.

Thinking it and saying it are two separate things. One is just the day to day frustrations of working with other human beings, the other is contributing to a toxic work environment that just so happens to target a woman in a boy's club of a company within a boy's club of an industry.

I kindly ask you to read things fully. Even disregarding how dismissive you are for victims of a terrible workplace like this, she specifically mentions how this toxicity messed with her visa status. "Just leave bro" is almost never a worthwhile sentiment tbh

Is this really news?

A popular tech YouTube company is outed as an abusive work environment that does nothing about sexual harassment some employees face. There's news reported about far more insignificant shit, I think we can consider this newsworthy.

Read the thread in full, it's much worse than The Verge makes it out to be - that was actually one of my contentions with this article when posting.

This is a naive world view. Working in a toxic environment is such a drain on you already. And then if you are in a field that is hard to break in to, you worry causing any issues will get you blackballed. And you often blame yourself and truly start to believe it is you who is doing bad. And getting a lawyer and suing is usually a fucking stressful nightmare. I have these huge boxes full of paperwork that I've filled out over the past few years and have to keep. I will randomly need some of them. And I'll randomly be notified to do even more shit. And it drags on for years. And my stuff is small fry compared to going up against massive company. Fucking paperwork gives me anxiety at this point.

Then you have to think about the rabid fan base that will be sending her death threats. Doxing her. Etc. All because they decided Linus is too cool he has all the computer shit.

The problem is that the video where they explain they are going to work to fix errors has.. errors.. >.> Then you get things like that video being monetised until they had enough backlash to make them go "oh okay. We wont monetize it then" or something. It's a big mess and it's clearly showing that LTT has serious problems.