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If you're on the winning side, yeah they do
Most wars aren't "won" anymore.
Who loses least?
~~Blackwater~~ Academi
Except the ones making money from that, they often just win
Well, I guess we'll have to build more weapons... you've twisted my arm.
Not really. Even from an almost sociopathic perspective, the economic loss of sending a chunk of your population off to war instead of doing something more productive at home can kill the whole calculus. Sun Tzu had a whole bit on how expensive it is just to march an army around, as if he were trying to get nobels to understand that maybe you just fucking shouldn't.
He was, that's what half of the aphorisms are saying.
"Don't just do things think, please, I'm begging you."
No, if you're profiting off both sides.. You Win!
But those chickens come a roostin'
Jeff Bezos owns the washington post.
Just a reminder that all these billionaire fucks are fascists
and none of them are on your side.
They do say there is lots of tech and medical improvements because of war but I see it as oh now we HAVE to spend money on these thing while before it was just optional.
It's not strange that these advancements happen only during war. During war the government and the rich finally need living human bodies to throw at eachother so they invest in us, and are willing to take risks on those of us with good ideas. If we take control of our money and our government we could do that ALL THE TIME.
Damn greedy dragons hoarding their bullshit "wealth"
If we take control of our money and our government we could do that ALL THE TIME.
Well put.
I am so glad I canceled my WaPo subscription
Edit: The article is 10 years old...
Read the article by the way
TL;Dr
'war is hell' and 'war is brutal' but it has brought about larger societies in which technology and the rule of law have dramatically reduced the amount of violence the average person suffers (he compares the stone age to modern times)
it has brought about larger societies in which technology and the rule of law have dramatically reduced the amount of violence the average person suffers (he compares the stone age to modern times)
lmao. Who believes this pseudo-scientific nonsense?
Ofc the author is a (british) classics professor. Unqualified and steeped in white supremacy. I almost barfed at the apparently serious reference to Hobbes. Just another jordan perterson style grifter...
You have to be actively braindead or bigoted to genuinely believe in hobbsian ideas.
In your own words, what are his ideas and why do you think they're terrible?
Not Shezznazz but Hobbes thought of the "natural state" of humanity as war of everyone against everyone with the only motivation being profit to oneself. The way to escape that state of being was to form a state where all members relinquish their individual power to a single person or group who then intimidate everyone into following the rules they made up by punishing them if they don't.
It is pretty much just an attempt to justify the divine right of kings in a more or less scientific/philosophical way.
Hobbs and even rosseu both had simplistic mindset on pre history humans that were incredible naiive and harmful towards ant progression of understanding. Hobbs believed in the savage brutish and short life of these people, while rosseu believed they were all loving, peaceful, and egalitarian. In reality, humans are humans, very smart, and complex social organisations haven't been with us well before the first villages or towns became a thing. I have an issue with both, but arguably, hobbs with so much worse, so much more racist and backwards too. The kinda guy if was alive today you'd want to beat up
Here's an archive link so nobody has to give this article clicks.
This entire theory begs the question of why we couldn't unite peacefully?
Because most of human history looked something like mad max and all the "peace first" guys were the first to die nasty deaths
What has given you this perception that all of history was something like mad max? There are certain time periods and events of turmoil and "war" which you can point too, but why have you come to the conclusion that all of history and life in it was a super action movie?
I'm not him but we know the answer. All the rich people keep repeating it. And if you hear it enough times, see it in enough movies, and even get taught in school that slaves were thankful for their "opportunity" then you start to believe it.
What if I told you it wasn't a light switch, you can just defend your community and there were areas of the world that understood this. Cultures that resolved conflict with mostly ceremonial combat and preferred trade to war?
War is peace?
War is peace
There is no war in Washington DC
Well, it's plausible if you take 'us' to mean the corporate ruling class
this post was submitted on 01 Dec 2024
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