Privacy on a non-degoogled Android device is non existent. Just because only Google gets to munch on your data doesn't equal privacy.
This meme is brought to you by someone who has no clue what iOS can do.
The whiplash between posts on Lemmy is so great.
Everyone seems to hate google and how invasive they are while simultaneously simping for google’s mobile OS
This shit is so stupid.
If one person believes one thing and another person believes the opposite, that doesn't mean they're hypocrites. That means there isn't a consensus. Besides, android can be better than iOS and deserving of criticism at the same time.
Or maybe people hate Google ruining the internet AND realise that iOS is still much worse than Android? The two things are in no way mutually exclusive unless you view the world as a tribal binary.
Android can be whatever a dedicated community wants it to be, since it's open source at its AOSP core.
I love AOSP, but I hate what Google does with it. Or most other manufacturers, for that matter.
Android is less secure then apple tbh its so bloated with Google crap
If you can't or don't want to root the phone and install your own de-Googled Android rom then you could get an Android phone designed for mainland China, which will come with all of the Google stuff already removed.
Because I’d trust anything Chinese/for China more than I’d trust google.
I mean, what's Xi Jinping gonna do with your data? If you're not a higher up in the defense industry then you really have nothing to lose from a hypothetical Chinese government backdoor into your phone (an American government backdoor, on the other hand, is extremely threatening to you as the USG has shown time and again that if you become a "person of interest" for any reason they can and will build a spurious case against you).
You can't even install DNS66 from the play store because Google bans apps that block ads. This meme is way off the mark and I'm and android fanboy.
If you are a android user that thinks the only source of apps is google play store, you aren't a real android user
The meme didn't mention the play store, anyone actually concerned with this stuff likely also is savvy enough to install apps without the play store.
You can still install it from fdroid or github. And there's an alternative called PersonalDNSFilter if you really wanted an app from the play store.
You can get it off f-droid
IOS has DNS profiles.
For wifi, I was pleasantly surprised that I could set a custom DNS on iOS while still using DHCP for other settings. Can only set DNS on Android if I use manual IP (or just use Wireguard).
Edit: not true, Android can have custom DNS with DHCP, see below.
The operating system that Google created to collect your data is secure? Not unless you get rid of all the Google services.
Don't confuse privacy and security. Android is a very secure system.
Android is AOSP, it has no Google at all. Don't confuse OEM ROMs and Android Open Source Project. As someone with GrapheneOS I can only laugh when someone calls iOS more private
I don't confuse anything. All flavours of Android are secure systems, but that doesn't mean they're all private.
I definitely agree with you that Graphene is more private than iOS, which is probably more private than most OEM Android systems out there.
Android is a very secure system
Except for the ridiculously powerful permissions you need to give most system-type apps in order for them to function (i.e. read and paint over all screen content) because the accessibility APIs are shit, and password manager APIs too fragmented to be useful.
Sometimes the policy of “you will use our API and you will be happy” is actually beneficial for users.
This is such a brain dead take. You cannot compare an OS from one developer to a device from another unspecified manufacturer with no context. No one would claim that a Samsung phone is more private than an iPhone, regardless of the "potential" in the context of degoogling, or the niche privacy switch that's present on less than 1/10,000 Android devices sold.
Yeah its much more fair to compare pixel devices to iphones. And it still matters if you install a custom rom onto it or not. In my use case yes a pixel is more secure but a lot of people who just go with the out if the box experience may be safer with apple.
Regular Android < iOS < Custom ROM
Stock android ain't to bad
It’s almost impossible to buy a phone with plain android on it. Google’s version on the pixel is nice to use, but a privacy nightmare
Button to disable all sensors? Which phone has this?
My phone has it.
And how can we be sure it's doing what it says? It's software, on most phones you don't control software that is running above apps layer.
Pretty accurate, though google does collect a lot of data...
