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Nintendo subpoenas Google, Discord, Reddit and more in ongoing Switch pirate crackdown (www.gamesindustry.biz)

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[+] halfapage@lemmy.world 85 points 3 weeks ago

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[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's never been ok to pirate a console that is still on the market. Though, part of that is how rare it has been for emulation to be feasible for a current console. But either way, it has always been demonstrably illegal. And especially in the case of yuzu where they were completely flaunting and charging money to play games that weren't even released yet. I honestly put most of Nintendo's current war path on their shoulders. That's not just riding the backs of giants, that's climbing into their faces and flicking them... ask any insect, that is a good way to get yeeted to the ground and for the giant to stop tolerating the previously benign presence of the rest of the insects.

Nintendo has definitely done some over reaches, but going after Switch pirates is not a good example of that.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

The "why" doesn't matter as much as how judicial precedent works. One company doing this will open the gates for many companies to start using each other for missing their products or breeching conduct. Nintendo using the justice department as their own goon squad to hunt down individual people for perceived infractions is alarming.

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

It's never been ok to pirate a console that is still on the market. Though, part of that is how rare it has been for emulation to be feasible for a current console

How old are you? Almost every single console has been emulated before it's successor got released.

And even without emulators it has been possible to pirate games on most consoles during their lifetime, the Xbox One and Xbox Series being the only exceptions during the last 3 decades

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 59 points 3 weeks ago

Among computing hardware companies Nintendo is really second only to Apple in making sure to remind us to never buy their devices on a regular basis. Well, unless you count Sony perhaps but not sure I would count smart TVs in quite the same category.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 43 points 3 weeks ago

I would place Nintendo above Apple on that point. Apple hasn’t subpoenaed social media for hosting jailbreaking sections.

[-] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

What did sony do? I actually never heard anyone talk badly of them before.

[-] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The PS3 geohot thing.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 3 weeks ago

Because its their fault there are un-patchable vunerabilities in the Switch's hardware, yessiree. 🙄

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, how far up the blame chain can we go until it's just Nintendo's fault?

"Well, you let them by being negligent" lmao.

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well, if you want to go to the top of the chain it would really be Nvidias fault

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

Depends which path you take, it could also be your local hospital for letting these hacker be born.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hospital shares as much of the blame as Google, Discord or Reddit. Amazing how Nintendo is engaging in these shenanigans on the verge of a new console release, when they almost certainly could have fixed these issues with a low-effort hardware refresh years ago.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

So there's this chick named Eve...

[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Welcome to the gaming world! Pick your poison!

It's either:

Companies who treat customers like shit (Nintendo, Epic)
Companies who treat their workers like shit (Xbox, CDPR)
Both (Sony)

Steam is not perfect (it has DRM), but aside from that they're cool

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Their DRM is optional, and many games on Steam are DRM free, meaning you can copy the files to another machine not running Steam and it would work just fine. And Steam's DRM, if used, is the least annoying DRM out there IMO.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think there’s a point to be made with harm reduction too- valve makes their drm easy to use and seems to be on the less invasive side

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely. Steam DRM existing likely doesn't increase the number of devs using DRM, but it probably moves devs from worse DRM schemes.

[-] crestwave@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Less games actually use Steam's DRM than people think. Even the ones that require Steam to run often just use their API for stuff like multiplayer functionality or displaying leaderboards.

There's an open source library that you can sub in to emulate the API and run the games on LAN without Steam. I believe there's no decryption involved so it should be 100% legal, just like how Proton reimplements Windows APIs.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

This company should fire their entire legal department.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

Hey Nintendo, how about you just release an emulator on PC and sell ROMs yourself? I'd gladly buy pretty much every first party title you make. You could even limit it to older games and I'd still buy a ton.

I don't want to keep Nintendo hardware around, but I do want to play Nintendo games. My wallet is ready.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

if nintendo actually did it, I'd expect them to fuck it up in the most nonsensical and uniquely nintendo way possible.

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

Nintendo isn't know for handling "the internet" very well. Just look at their online services compared to their competitors over the years. We still use friend codes ffs.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

Now that we have viable PC handhelds I no longer have a reason to care about Nintendo. Blast the pirates or don't, I'm not buying their shit either way. On the other hand I've got a lot of friends who actually have decent money in Nintendo's ecosystem who use emulators to play the games they own in a way they prefer. This has left a bad taste in their mouths...

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, I'm happy to buy Nintendo games, I would really rather not play them on the Switch. If Nintendo released on PC, I'd be willing to pay more than the Switch game price.

[-] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

Wouldn't it be funny if people made a switch 2 emulator quickly and host it through i2p or tor, maybe git through those or just send patches so it can't be taken down, that would be horrible. I hope people don't do that to Nintendo.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Great. Push people towards communities and tools that stopped caring about not including a dumped bios.

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