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[-] NeilBru@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The message to ~~Democrats~~ neo-libs and neo-cons, is clear: you must dump ~~neoliberal economics~~ corporatism.

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 4 hours ago

Translation: "Change who you are. Completely, not superficially. Just don't be who you are and have been."

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 hours ago

Which won't happen because that would require them to turn their back on the donor class, corporate media and lobbyists.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 28 points 14 hours ago

"The DNC hears ya. The DNC don't care."

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

If the electorate consisted of 9 people who were doing fine, and one person that wasn't, we would have 9 no votes and one person that voted to destroy the system that allowed the 9 to be doing fine.

[-] void_star@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Sadly this is true, but that’s the price for not participating in democracy

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Everyone is in agreement: the takeaway for Democrats this election is to adopt my specific political views and eliminate any positions that I personally dislike.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I mean, I think were more arguing there's clearly not a huge difference between the two parties and we need farther left representation instead of chasing centrist votes. I thought that was pretty clear.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 12 hours ago

The only thing the Democrats could do is seize power from an official act of a standing president.

Otherwise the Democratic Party is vestigial at best and a label for Fascists to terrorize and kill at worst.

[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 67 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

One of the biggest unforced failures of the Biden administration is the reported complaint of Joe Biden that people weren’t acknowledging the economic turnaround.

Biden did a lot of good for the economy! Massive stimulus via the infrastructure bill, a sensible approach to recovery from Covid, acknowledging that recovery from an inflationary period would be necessarily painful, etc. He was a steady hand at a time when America needed one.

But what sends me into apoplexy, what really grinds my gears, is that this motherfucker was so out of touch to believe that this was a messaging problem. He felt that Americans had not yet heard of his accomplishments in turning around the tide of economic misfortune, how badly the republicans would have bungled it, and how the next four years would have been a period of huge growth based on the previous four.

All of these points were absolutely true.

But there is no housing supply. The economic pressures are so hard on young people that their biological impulses are changing.

Young empiricists have taken a look at the climate and have correctly deduced that their future is full of pain in the absence of truly radical action.

And Kamala’s strategy for relieving pressure on the housing market was a $25,000 credit for first time home buyers? In an environment where housing prices have doubled and tripled in fifteen years?

I am one of the very few members of the public that attended Feinstein’s funeral at San Francisco City Hall. And the only one there that day wearing sneakers. I attended her lying in state, paid my respects to a committed civil servant, and in the book, cautioned Pelosi against a similar, “ignominious” end. Then I hear that Pelosi has filed to run again in 2026. As an 86 year old.

At some point the Democratic leadership looks less out of touch and more actively malicious considering the serious and existential crises of the young and near-young in the United States.

The country is in decline because of its extreme individualism, its lack of compassion, and its ruthless “politics is the art of the possible” approach by leaders who could not possibly inspire with bold leadership.

The party is chasing local maxima.

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

And Kamala’s strategy for relieving pressure on the housing market was a $25,000 credit for first time home buyers?

This was also going to be coupled with a large tax credit to construction companies for building single-family homes and another tax credit for selling them to first-time homeowners.

Taken together, that all sounds pretty good. But I think what really needs to change is zoning laws. The problem is that the federal government has no control over the zoning ordinances of local communities. Hell, state governments barely have control over that. Usually whenever a rezoning of a neighborhood is brought up, it causes a firestorm at city council meetings.

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

Harris' solution to the housing problem really annoyed me. There are so many other more effective ways to go about making housing more affordable but she just ignored them. This, in my uneducated opinion, would have also motivated more voters.

In a more general sense, the mainstream Democrats have always had a difficult time with messaging which is nothing new but really showed itself in this past election.

Democrats think that if you just spend time educating the voting population on all the good their policies will do then the voter will make a rational decision in the voting booth. And in the exit polling that is exactly who voted for Harris, highly educated people that like that kind of lecture type of politicking. But most people don't vote like that - they don't want a professor in the oval office they want a cheerleader.

[-] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Now what exactly did trump offer in terms of the economy?

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 87 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Democrats: "Understood. We must try harder to win over the center-right."

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 4 hours ago

I've been called center right but I wouldn't describe myself so. I'm right and left. It balances in the center but most centrist positions are corporatist and authoritative, and I hate both. Man did this election ever suck. I'm always stoked for the primaries and hoping to get a free thinker in the mix but this year we didn't even get primaries.

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