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[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 153 points 2 years ago

If only there was an alternative.
What if we replace vulcanized rubber with a metal ring 🤔

[-] sandwichwhiplashparrot@lemmy.world 137 points 2 years ago

Maybe it could also run on some kind of metal street, to further reduce friction? 🤔

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 97 points 2 years ago

we could probably manage traffic much easier if switching was controlled vs. random drivers...

[-] ValiantDust@feddit.org 73 points 2 years ago

While we're at it, maybe we could install some powerlines to provide the vehicles with electricity. That way they could run on renewable energy.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 14 points 2 years ago

This would also reduce the need for lithium!

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

To make sure it doesn't destroy the road we could put metal in them also...

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Delightfully devilish, Seymour.

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[-] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 78 points 2 years ago

If only there was a highly efficient mode of transporting people that didn’t use tires. Ah well, nothing can be done I guess.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 28 points 2 years ago

Yes, imagine if there was a fast and safe way of transport. Something like made to run on steel bars in order to reduce friction. I don't know. I'm just imagining, I watch too much science fiction.

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

My city's metro system uses rubber tyres, :(

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I imagine it's still orders of magnitudes better than everyone driving their own car in.

Same with busses. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good

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[-] Maetani@jlai.lu 61 points 2 years ago

While there's no doubt tires are bad for the environment, a quarter of all microplastics seems a lot, especially since plastic is everywhere. Gladly there's a source for that claim, a link to tireindustryproject's FAQ... Claiming that this number is a gross overestimation. What the fuck is this article? Is it supposed to be satire or something?

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've seen a similar number in a lot of proper scientific sources, so this article may be bunk, but the number is correct I think.

For example this article: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.scitotenv.2024.171003 They claim 27,26% in China.

And this article: https://www.rivm.nl/bibliotheek/rapporten/2024-0106.pdf They claim 24.88% in the EU and state it's among the biggest if not the biggest contributor to microplastics.

I'm all for debunking stuff, but about a quarter seems to be the currently accepted quantity to the best of our abilities to measure.

There is a bit of confusion between the amount tyres contribute into the ocean, how much into the ocean and waterways and how much in the environment as a whole. A lot of it ends up in the soil, so it doesn't contribute to plastics in the water, but still in the environment.

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[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Bear in mind that the denominator is plastic pollution. Most plastic waste does not directly pollute the environment. If it is not recycled then it goes to landfills or incineration. Not ideal, but at least the damage is contained. (The bulk of ocean plastic comes from the rivers of poor countries without proper waste management.)

The issue with tyre microplastics is that it's all but impossible to channel the waste. It's the same with synthetic fabric: just washing it creates pollution that's really hard to control.

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[-] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 54 points 2 years ago

This is also yet another reason SUVs are bad: bigger tyres, higher weight, more wear, more pollution.

It's also another reason to have lower speed limits: less friction, less wear, less pollution.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 58 points 2 years ago

You want trains because they are good for the environment.

I want trains because chugga chugga choo choo.

We are not the same.

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[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 53 points 2 years ago

The other big offender are synthetic textiles btw.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Those reusable grocery bags made from recycled plastic? Disintegrates into dust eventually. And in your household to while it does so.

Use either natural fiber or nylon(more durable and by default, PFAS free).

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[-] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Action won't happen. In fact, we'll increase the amount of pollution!

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

What if we wrapped the tyres in bags to contain all the dust?

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago
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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That’s on top of all the brake dust cars spread.

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[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

so, basically, drive on three wheels and the problem's solved?

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If all you bike owners drove unicycles we wouldn't be in this mess

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago
[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

But electric cars will fix everything. Thats what electric car manufacturers said!

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

The only thing I see amerikans taking 'urgent action' on is making sure a few select convicted criminals avoid doing any prison time.

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[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 14 points 2 years ago

it's not fuckbuses or fuck trolleybuses so we should care about this

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Lots of things contribute to this. Vehicle weight (extra stress on the tires), wheel alignment (toe-in/out causes scrubbing which causes more wear), unmaintained suspensions (worn out shocks, struts and bushings causing the above), burnouts (obviously, but, even in winter being the guy doing a burnout on summer tires while trying to get up an icy hill or across the intersection still counts), tire compound, road design, and driving style. If we had more cargo trains doing logi instead of long haul trucks we could probably cut down on a lot of pollution both in exhaust particles and tire particles.

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