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Summary

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.

The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.

Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.

Hamas also criticized the decision.

The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.

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[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 184 points 1 month ago

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan’s request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.

Antisemitism does manifest itself in both casual and systematic forms. The region-specific component is also important.

However, claims regarding antisemitism from the Israeli government are increasingly becoming a "reverse confirmation" of sorts. One could almost argue that if they call something antisemitic, chances are it's actually not and may even be the correct course of action (clear cut cases notwithstanding).

[-] AliSaket@mander.xyz 66 points 1 month ago

Decrying the persecution of crimes against humanity as antisemitic is quite something. It begs the question then, what these people see inherently Semitic about perpetrating these crimes.

The blatant misuse of this term is actually very harmful to Jews around the world, since calls of those actually suffering from anti-Jewish sentiment are not taken seriously anymore.

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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.

I wasn't aware he was a stand up comedian. I mean, I always knew he was a clown.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 14 points 1 month ago

TLDR: it’s not antisemitic, it’s just anti-Bibi.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 119 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cue "ICC is antisemitic", just like the ICJ, the UN, every human rights organisation, the Special Rapporteur, independent journalists, protestors etc etc.

Antisemitism and victimhood are the only cards left for Zio fascists to play with.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

The original Nazis would always claim that they represented the Arian Race and that any criticism of them was "against the Arian Race" and the Zionists, a Neue Nazi group, do the same only using a different ethnicity.

This is far from the only way in which these Neue Nazis are the same as the original Nazis.

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 116 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I heard that Bibi stubbed his toe on an antisemetic table this morning.

[-] ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

Bibi has a table that prevents vomiting? What else is that bastard hiding?!

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Lmao thanks for pointing out the typo. Or perhaps it’s the zionists that keep making a mistake and are trying to tell us that ending the genocide in Gaza helps them throw up less?

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[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago

''How are you today?'' ''That's an antisemitic question.''

[-] Gort@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

That's what the constant cry wolf has lead to. The absurd has become real.

[-] Draghetta@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago

They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago

Those warrants aren't worth the paper they're printed on, but it's still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.

[-] the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 47 points 1 month ago

Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

These warrants absolutely matter in terms of being a trumo card in several legal issues relating to EU-Israel relations.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It's a nice thought. I won't hold my breath expecting any real consequences for Israel, though.

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

The saddest thing is that if they do take action, it will be the lowest bar possible of accountability. They'll for example ban products from illegal settlements and then let Israel redurect them anyways.

[-] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not exactly. The ratifying countries are bound by contract to arrest them. Plus It's a serious issue not to do it, because this would delegitimize the ICC as an institution, which is not in the interest of most ratifying countries. So it essentially boils down to a choice between losing the court as a valuable weapon against war criminals or bad relations with Israel.

What happens after an arrest is another matter and I think that is where the real pressure would happen

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[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 month ago

Finally the only sensible response to what is happening in Israel.

Arrest the leaders on both sides!

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

It seems that the Hamas leader they've listed the warrant for might already be dead though. I guess if he turns up less dead than expected in a member country they can nab him with the warrant

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[-] turbulentMagma@lemm.ee 61 points 1 month ago

God they really just play the antisemitism card for everything

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 19 points 1 month ago

It's the only card they have

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[-] NastyNative@mander.xyz 54 points 1 month ago

This is the correct call! A majority of Palestinians and Israeli do not want war. It’s a few bad apples on both sides and they should all be jailed.

[-] kittenzrulz123 47 points 1 month ago

As someone living in Israel, that's a nice thought but a fundamental misunderstanding of Israeli politics. The vast majority of Israelis not only support war but support a complete and total genocide of every Muslim in the middle east. Furthermore a very large amount of Israelis see the hostages as an acceptable loss if it means they can kill more Palestinian civilians. Its not "a few bad apples", Israel is a fundamentally rotten "nation" that only exists on genocide and war.

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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 44 points 1 month ago

Israelis are largely in favor of it. Netanyahus approval has skyrocketed, when they launched the offensive on Lebanon and Israelis opposing the wars and occupation are increasingly targeted by the government and government affiliated "settler" terror groups. These terror groups have ramped up their pogroms in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and decent Israelis who get in their way are beaten while the IDF watches.

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 36 points 1 month ago

Genocide takes a lot more than a few bad apples making a whoopsie.

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[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Israelis are terrorists who take part of the IDF to ensure the occupation of Palestine.

Of course, people like Haredi Jews and other minorities that don‘t take part of the IDF are innocent. But the rest are terrorists and should be treated as such. ✊

The Palestinian armed resistance is completely valid and it isn’t a „few bad apples“.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

The US and others were fine with it when they issued a warrant for Putin, I'm sure they'll be on board for this as well, right?

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 25 points 1 month ago

This makes us look weak and hypocritical to the rest of the world. Stop the unjust war of aggression and annexation! No wait, I meant the other one. This one is a-OK.

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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Finally! Now arrest the fuckers.

[-] hombre_fundido@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago
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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

He's really fucking up the antisemitic thing for the rest of us. The wolf crier isn't a monolith and he's diluting an important communication tool.

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

At least with America going full mask off as a force of evil, the rest of the world can stop waiting on us to do the right thing.

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[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

There is number of countries already said they would.

"The Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, and Spain all said they would meet their commitments and obligations regarding the Rome Statute and International Law."

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Anyone putting netanyahu and hamas in the same category, gets it.

[-] DytallixB@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago
[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago

Isn't it a little anti-semetic to hold the guilty responsible for crimes the whole world knows they did? /s

Just predicting the media spin that's all

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

It's funny how the criminal immediatelly implied that it's a Jewish characteristic to be a criminal like him, just like he and his minions (which includes the American Administration) have been continuously implying that commiting all manner of horrid crimes, from theft and rape all the way to Genocide and purposeful child mass murder, is a Jewish chacteristic.

Like the last bunch of Nazis, these people aren't merelly immoral, they're so depraved, disgusting and devoid of even the most basic humanity that they'll slander millions of those they claim to defend in order to avoid the consequences of acting like the most extreme and out of control psychopath (far beyond mere Serial Murderer and well into Hitler-level).

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[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago

ICC:
"We acknowledge that Hamas' attacks against civilians are crimes too."

Netanyahu and Hamas in unison:
"What do you mean, 'crimes too'?"

Meanwhile, the slaughter goes on because nobody wants to risk open conflict with the US and they* have a raging hard-on for genocidal imperialism.

*Not all of them, of course, but enough are either complicit or at least complacent that it remains a tenable political position.

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[-] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

Finally... it was about time!

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago
[-] xor 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean it's done quite a lot to diplomatically isolate them, right? Putin couldn't go to South Africa for BRICS, he couldn't attend the G20 summit this week, and presumably lots of other trips he hasn't done that he would have otherwise intended to

In Israel's case, I expect this will be a pain for Netanyahu more than it has been for Putin, since the set of countries that are neither ICC signatories nor actively hostile to Israel is a pretty short list

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[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

The name of the game is sanctions. Russian can sustain itself under "nuclear" sanctions. Sanction Israel, and the comfortable lifestyle of illegal Lebensraum settlers will start to look rather unattractive.

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Biden is lucky he didnt get included in the warrant.

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

He should be arrested and given a quick trial and hanged.

[-] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Imprisonment for live is the highest possible sentence.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Kudos to the ICC and make sure they are cell mates. Damn shame it will not happen.

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