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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Summary

The Biden administration has moved to forgive $4.7 billion in U.S. loans to Ukraine as part of a $9.4 billion loan package authorized by Congress in April to support Ukraine’s government during its war with Russia.

State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller confirmed the decision, which Congress could still block.

The Senate is set to vote on a disapproval motion introduced by Senator Rand Paul, though bipartisan support for Ukraine remains strong.

President Biden is expediting aid ahead of his term’s end, amid concerns President-elect Trump may restrict future support.

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[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 83 points 8 months ago

The Senate is due to vote later on Wednesday on a motion of disapproval of loan forgiveness for Ukraine put forward by Republican Senator Rand Paul, a frequent critic of U.S. support for Ukraine.

Rand Paul? Is this the fellow who advocated for taking horse medication against COVID?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago

Also a noted Russian bootlicker, just like the incoming administration.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is this the fellow who advocated for taking horse medication against COVID?

In other words: an average Republican

[-] cook_pass_babtridge@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

He also made the bizarre argument that Eric Garner was killed by overzealous regulation of cigarette sales rather than, you know, a violent cop.

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 38 points 8 months ago

Dude what about the student loan forgiveness you got filibustered on?

[-] Batman@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Lol when this started I was a fine candidate for forgiveness. Now my income has increased and they lowered the bar so I'm disqualified. Really glad I'm on this side but it will be 5 years before I can pay off what would have been forgiven. The ceiling is a joke anywhere that isn't a rural environment.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago

Means testing is just a poverty trap. My family personally earned a bit more money and the state of California now said "Cool, you no longer qualify for free health insurance, you gotta pay."

And while it's not a lot, its a few dollars a month, it has less options. Not even medical transportation in the rural area we live in.

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

Help them win before we change teams!

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago

But American students? Fuck em. Raise their interest to finance this.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 17 points 8 months ago

Biden has also repeatedly forgiven student loans.

[-] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

the Biden hate is getting tired. sure, he's not the greatest president of all time, but he did a damn good job considering the mess he had to clean up. i can't imagine how it feels handing the keys back to this traitor

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Infuriating.

US borrowers can't get their loans forgiven, but Biden's going to be Ukraine's personal Santa Claus for the next month and half, even though we've already allocated hundreds of billions to their war.

[-] ThotIWasSomebody@lemmy.world 91 points 8 months ago

Yes, it's Biden that prevented student loan forgiveness.....are you fucking stupid?

[-] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Dude this just isnt the way. Whether you like it or not a lot of people feel this way, and it permeates a lot of things. "Im suffering so why am i last?". I agree that these are two different issues but lets stop calling people stupid for not understanding.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I kind of agree with calling people stupid. So much of the reasons people give for disliking what Biden has accomplished are straight up lack of awareness or misinformation. If someone makes a choice without awareness, possibly intentionally unaware, or is unable to break out of a misinformation rut, what do you call it?

I really don’t think most Republicans are as malicious, spiteful, racist, or corrupt as the high profile Republican leaders, nor that they intentionally vote for that: they’re just being stupid

The last few years of fact checking, reality checking, reasoned debate has gone nowhere. What do you call it when someone refuses to look outside their preexisting beliefs, regardless of how much proof? Maybe calling them in it will get their attention. Maybe stooping to their level is the only thing that will

[-] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

Biden's forgiven the loans that he has the power to forgive. Judges and the House have blocked most of his loan forgiveness moves.

If we can allocate billions of dollars to Israel, we can certainly forgive some of Ukraine's loans.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

~~If we can~~ The state shouldn't allocate billions of dollars to Israel, ~~we can~~ but they should certainly forgive some of Ukraine’s loans.

[-] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

True and true.

[-] EisFrei@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Apropos Santa Claus.

Every time the democrats are in power, the Americans need to suffer. Why? Because the republicans decided so about 40 years ago. It's called the two Santas strategy.

http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/thom-hartmann/two-santas-strategy-gop-used-economic-scam-manipulate-americans-40-years/

[-] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 12 points 8 months ago

Any chance of mortgage loan forgiveness? Just sayin'.

[-] Vanshaj@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Am I going to be down voted if I say this is stupid.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

WTF why not forgive student loans you dessicated husk

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Does anyone know why Biden has the authority to do this? It seems more up to Congress to decide if a debt is forgiven overnight. "Pen and the Purse" is what my social studies said every class.

[-] deltapi@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Read the article if you want your question answered.

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