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[-] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 241 points 2 months ago

Christmas is no longer a holiday that honors the Christian god, it's a holiday that honors the god of capitalism, money.

[-] tiefling 65 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Cool, so it's still worth eschewing /s

I would like to note though that xmas is a very sore time of year for a lot of people (mostly queer, but others too) who do not have a good relationship with their family

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 46 points 2 months ago

That's why I think it's important that we bring Christmas back to its true religious roots: Fertility, hunting, and maybe a cult of the dead.

Well, that and I just kind of want to piss off all of my pearl clutching relatives.

But seriously, thank you for the reminder that this can be a particularly hard season.

I hope your solstice is marked by good times with real friends and chosen family.

[-] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Forget all the other traditions, the true meaning of the season is a battle of rhymes with a skeletal horse

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[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 113 points 2 months ago

And spawned an even longer shit fit.

Some people just want to be offended and we should simply let them.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wait, did I read that correctly and they replaced the hat with a snowflake?? Hahahaha

And yes, people often forget that generally offense is taken. When it's intentionally given, it's pretty clear.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 101 points 2 months ago

I'm from Australia and snowflakes during December is hemispherist and offensive to us down under.

[-] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 months ago

We can replace it with an emu.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 38 points 2 months ago

No, that brings painful war flashbacks.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah? Well I see your use of kangaroo shapes as elitist and many other -isms. Even the taste of marmite is discriminating! Etc. *spits in the general direction of Australia*

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[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

Jesus Christ what is wrong with people... Microsoft giving in to a clear troll, surprised they didn't just lock and ignore that shit and move on.

[-] BangersAndMash@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Jesus Christ is not my Lord and saviour. I demand you delete this post immediately and apologise. This is as insulting to me as pineapple on a pizza

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[-] Ansis100@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Love the fact that this spawned new issues complaining about the debugger icon promoting violence against insects.

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[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago

Nice. Honestly, pretty well corralled, I would say.

Incidentally, I'm amused that one of the more popular responses includes the classic phrase

"Why can't we all just get along"

Which I tend to notice after having had it explained well to me once by someone with more empathy than my own.

I won't belabor it, but they pointed out to me that being tempted to say "Why can't we all just get along" is usually a sign that we haven't actually listened effectively.

So now when I hear or read "Why can't we all just get along", I see that [X] and hear the buzz from "Family Feud", and hear one of the Family Feud host kindly say "No points. Let's try again."

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[-] josefo@leminal.space 80 points 2 months ago

What religious symbol? Saint Nicholas had nothing to do with the fat guy dressed in red that coca cola made up. The hat is fine goddammit

[-] geogle@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Well, they took inspiration from Clement Clarke Moore's (1922) "Twas the night before Christmas" and illustrations from Thomas Nast (1881) showing him in red with the sack over his shoulder. Certainly, Coca Cola has solidified the modern image with their ad campaign though starting in 1931. Src

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[-] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 61 points 2 months ago

Christmas is religion yes, but Santa doesn't really have anything to do with religion other than being on Christmas right?

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 43 points 2 months ago

Yea, Santa is the more secular icon. There are even Christians that take issue with the Santa character (which is a combination of "Pagan" and Christian mythos). I put Pagan in quotes, as that's a Christian term for certain non-Christian beliefs.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 27 points 2 months ago

Santa is a stand-in for Jesus... for children. They're both magical beings that can perform miracles and have similar methods: Both Santa and Jesus have naughty lists and forms of punishment that come later; much later (both are equivalent lengths of time to a child though 🤣). Both bring "gifts". Both have traditional appearances. Both have followers that wear silly hats and strange clothes. But most importantly...

Both are imaginary.

If you believe in Santa as an adult you're ridiculed. If you believe in Jesus as an adult you're just labeled, "Christian". Yet the fact that nearly every child eventually finds out Santa isn't real is quite disturbing to a lot of Christians. After all, if they could stop believing in Santa--who is so similar to Jesus in every way--then they could stop believing in Jesus.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

You have to start off believing the little lies like the Hogfather before you can believe in the big lies like justice

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[-] puchaczyk 14 points 2 months ago

Santa is based on Saint Nicholas of Myra, so he definitely has something to do with Christianity.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 2 months ago

The modern depiction of Santa is based on Coca-Cola.

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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

"Based on" and what people associate with now are vastly different. Most people don't even know if Saint Nick is based on a real person.

[-] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Besides both being fairy tales, I would say it's even anti religious, since religious Christmas clashes with it, yet he doesn't bring gifts to baby Jesus. He brings commercial toys to all the other children.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago
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[-] Wirlocke 40 points 2 months ago

If anything modern day santa is more of an invention of Coca-Cola than Christianity or Paganism.

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[-] Sparky 39 points 2 months ago

Wait till they see the vlc logo during christmas ...

[-] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 2 months ago
[-] Sparky 44 points 2 months ago

If I remember correctly it switches to this logo during christmas

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 18 points 2 months ago

Anyone else get the urge to pull the hat down?

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[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 months ago

What's more infuriating is that they immediately gave in and removed it without any discussion

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[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

It's always baffling how people can define something as unacceptable. Says who? You? Who are you to just make that decision so unilaterally?

You can have your opinion, but it's just that.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is nothing new, people expect religion not to be part of the "professional" environment. Dunno if VS code applies.

At the office (big corp) they don't call it the "Christmas Party", it's "the holiday party". They put lights and stuff up but no more Christmas trees/stars etc.. not everyone celebrates christmas so that's fine by me. If Microsoft wants to put a little santa hat on their product that's fine by me too. If I was using some service based in Mexico and they put a little hat on a product for cinco de mayo i wouldn't care. Christmas has other implications so it might be different, dunno

[-] mvilain@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

Back in the mid-80s, when I got an email from HR about the Christmas Party at the local office, I sent a reply to the district HR manager complaining that not everyone in the company celebrated Christmas. Later that day, another email came out announcing the Holiday Party. So glad I had a hand in educating HR.

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[-] SqueakyBeaver 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

omg this is the person who deleted all their files on accident lol

edit: nevermind

[-] SteveTech@programming.dev 51 points 2 months ago

ghost is just GitHub's way of saying deleted user.

[-] SqueakyBeaver 18 points 2 months ago

Lmao thanks for the info

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago

Santa is pagan, they put that dude on cereal boxes.

[-] BurningTurtle@programming.dev 20 points 2 months ago

Guess loosing his project didn't deter him from using vscode.

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[-] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago

Sing along kids! Mr. Ghosty the Christmas troll...

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago

I hope they never walk past a church…

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wow I didn't expect so many religious people on Lemmy. Fuck christmas and every religious holiday. No special treatment for pale skins or anybody else. People are so indoctrinated into these rituals that they think it's "normal". Keep that bullshit out of my code please.

[-] yessikg 13 points 2 months ago

It's true that Christians have killed more people and commited more genocides, and are obsessed with putting their religion in everything... I think I'm on the side of this guy tbh

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[-] digdilem@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

The 'ghost' of Christmas past.

[-] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

The article they share in the issue to explain why Christmas is so offensive is absolutely wild. To quote:

Imagine that between 1933-45, the Nazi regime celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday – April 20 – as a holiday. Imagine that they named the day, “Hitlerday,” and observed the day with feasting, drunkenness, gift-giving, and various pagan practices.

https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/51928?lang=bi

[-] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 months ago

That analogy seems a better fit for a lot of Jewish holidays then Christmas. Passover is about the mass death of innocent Egyptian children. Chanukah is about a revolt against Greek rule where:

The Maccabees destroyed Greek altars in the villages, forcibly circumcised boys, burnt villages, and drove Hellenized Jews off their land.

Christmas is just about some baby being born ( on probably a different day)

[-] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

The "real meaning" of Christmas was getting the pagans on board with Christianity, don't let anyone lie to you otherwise lol.

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