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submitted 4 months ago by RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I'm on lemmy.ml but as I'm French, I was reading this comment and was surprised to see removed instead of the french word for "late".

Is there anything I can do on my end or is it a server setting and I should move to a French one?

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[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

That's tied to the instance. The French word for slow is the same as a word commonly used as an insult in English, so the .ml devs have it baked in to their slur filter.

[-] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

TIL “lent” is a slur

/s

[-] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lemme.ml: Where you can call for murder and warfare against meat eaters and landlords, but don't even think about saying a no-no word, mister!

Edit: funny how all the negative comments flood in at once, almost like folks clocked in for work.

[-] Arelin@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago

Spoken like a true shitlib

Lemm.ee: Where you can be a fascist but still complain about other instances

[-] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

You say that like it's a bad thing

Socialists not being assholes to fellow marginalized people makes sense, actually.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Where's the inconsistency

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

Yeah it's server-side with .ml. You can switch to a French instance, or I imagine many English-speaking instances don't block that word. I guess you can try view that comment from different instances to check.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

Join us, won’t you? :)

sh.itjust.works

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Well that’s fuckin slow

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The "Slur filter" is a server setting. The filter makes use of a "regex" (a text matching algorithm) to automatically remove any text that matches those words. An admin needs to explicitly set the rules for that regex. The regex does not take language into account, it is a simple text matching algorithm.

The box is in the Admin settings page and looks like this:

I know that lemmy.ml makes use of a strict set of regex rules. The translation of the french word for "late" matches an ableist slur in English, and so it is removed by lemmy.ml. ~~I am not sure about whether you can check regex for each individual server, but I believe that most instances don't filter that specific word out.~~

EDIT: Ah, I found out how to check the regex. You can check an instance's regex by going to the the URL https://{instance}.{TLD}/api/v3/site and looking for "slur_filter_regex". For example, for lemmy.ml you would go to:

https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/site

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Fuck if I know.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago

what fucking profanity filter? damned if I've ever seen it

[-] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

It's a misnomer. It's actually a slur filter

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Oh, well that's all right then

[-] eatham@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago

It blocks bitch and cunt, neither of which are slurs.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Those are both misogynistic slurs.

[-] eatham@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago

At least in Australia, they are very common gender neutral insults. Never heard anyone use it as a slur over here, but I've no clue how people in your country use them

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

"common" and "insult" I believe, but if you think a word that refers to a female dog and a word that refers to a female sex organ are gender-neutral, well...

[-] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

It's about cultural context, c*nt is deployed in reference both to men and women in Australia

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

In the US, too, but the usage is always "you are acting like a woman and being a woman is bad so you are bad"

that's what 'slur' means

[-] eatham@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago

That simply isn't what it means in Australia. I can't be bothered arguing with you over something as stupid as usage of a word in a country I live in and you dont, so I won't be replying further.

[-] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately you just cannot simply take English as it's spoken in your country and assume it will apply universally and without change across all English speaking countries even as you and I now mostly successfully converse in English. The roots of words can be interesting and sometimes informative to know but it's not the whole story and ignoring actual usage will never garner a true understanding. It sounds like it's pretty important avoid the word in the US, but not so in Australia. It's not totally neutral here, it's still swearing and you won't hear a school teacher saying it to children, but it's also not coming from the same place in terms of meaning as in the US or UK for example. Sometimes it's an insult, essentially meaning a bad or objectionable person, sometimes it's used in much the same way as "mate", other times it can simply mean "person/people". Much like English itself, context is important and you have to know the background and contextual cues to understand which meaning to take.

You should come over here some time, you might like it, the weather is nice, we share a lot in common with the US, so you'd feel right at home but there's just enough interesting differences to be exotic and provide opportunities to learn something about the world you didn't know before. I can tell you're well meaning and I think people will probably appreciate that too.

[-] fjordbasa@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Read Rule 3 in the sidebar

[-] eatham@aussie.zone 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You should leave lemmy.ml, they have a profanity filter which doesn't consider the language.

(before anyone comments, yes I know they call it a slur filter, but it also blocks some mild profanity so it isn't just for slurs)

[-] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago
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