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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

I don't begrudge your decision. To me this comes down to a question of if you're willing to be on the hook for a multi million dollar lawsuit, even if you'd definitely win in the end. It's still an expensive process.

I sure as hell am not willing to do that, so I'm not going judge other people who aren't willing either. I wish more people would look at it from this perspective.

By design, this isn't Reddit. We didn't want to be at the whims of their bullshit CEO and corporation. Unfortunately, that's also exactly who can afford to have legal squabbles and not go bankrupt. This is just a natural consequence of having a community run space vs a corporate one.

[-] RogueSensei@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

This goes against the principles of the fediverse, I'd expect content censorship from the likes of reddit and twitter. This feels like a knee-jerk reaction to a problem that doesn't exist on communities from completely different instances (and judging by the backlash this decision came out of nowhere without consultng the community). I seriously urge you to reconsider this decision.

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[-] Sygheil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

The logo(s) may be different, but the methods are the same.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 16 points 2 years ago

Is it a liability when the discussion happened outside of lemmy.world?

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[-] Grace@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago
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[-] LemmyWinks666@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I'm very conflicted about this. On one hand, it's kind of bullshit to take this level of action on something that can be handled on a case-by-case basis, when the need arises.

On the other hand, I'd prefer to see Lemmy avoid the reputation that Mastodon has garnered with the activities that are vastly under moderated there. With the size that some instances are reaching obviously there needs to be a level of discretion towards the content you will allow.

It's, however, a slippery slope from protecting the community to accepting bribes for exclusive access to your user base.

"Due to moral objections, we've decided to block this meme community. However here's an alternative that will show you advertisements disguised as funny memes! They even have most of the same content as the old one! Enjoy!"

Don't let that become reality.

[-] BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I have an idea. How about all of the complainers go and start your own instance and allow whatever you want. When you have 100k users good luck sleeping.

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[-] FoxyZac64@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
[-] morgan_423@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Easy for you to say that, not being the one footing potential legal bills.

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[-] craktok@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Wow. Itโ€™s amazing the replies here. If you want to steal other peoples work, then go elsewhere. No one owes you the right to steal other peoples content.

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[-] gringo_papi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
[-] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

lemmy.world has become reddit.

[-] Demigod787@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
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[-] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

This is a prime example of why I suspect we'll see a lot more lemmy instances with a more narrow focus over time instead of just a few super lemmys. Its only keeping them indexed that will be a problem so that they can be found.

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