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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 304 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Firefox doesn't implement the AudioData API, which is probably necessary for the waveform viewer and cropping tool Discord presents in the soundboard management UI.

Not everything is about Chrome DRM yall.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yet another experimental API only supported by Chrome. Chrome has always been like this, implementing experimental API that hasn't been finalized yet. You might say they're innovating to support new technologies, but actually it's more like they're doing whatever they pleased, as demonstrated by their removal of jpeg xl support despite web communities plea not to do so (a new more efficient image compression, but not made by Google so screw it), pushing manifest V3 and ad topics, and recent push for web environment integrity API.

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Thank fucking people like you. The average Lemmy user just knows everything.

I have seen so many Lemmy users think they are better than Reddit users. Truth is, you are all fucking ass holes you are just different kinds of ass holes.

None of us agree with Google's choices but for fucks sake not everything is because Google chose it.

Sometimes it's just in the damn browser. Like fuck off.

I use Chrome and Firefox and have two different online personas with both.

[-] limerod@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago

If you clicked the link. It says experimental technology. It's not mozilla's fault Chrome is adding features that are not standard. Sites like Discord for utilizing non standard API's.

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[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 28 points 1 year ago

It appears the Reddit users that don't read further than the title have arrived on Lemmy.

[-] Anomander@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

Shocking news: people are people everywhere, not just on 'rival' platforms.

[-] Pfnic@feddit.ch 12 points 1 year ago

Care to elaborate? I can't make sense of your response

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[-] webjukebox@mujico.org 109 points 1 year ago

And their desktop client technically is a browser without omnibar.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 33 points 1 year ago

Electron is not just a browser. It's more like a native app framework that just happens to use HTML and CSS to render UIs. You can do anything the OS lets you do, not just what a browser environment would let you do.

[-] OskarAxolotl@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Electron is an unholy fusion of Chromium and Node.JS. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't 'just happen' to use HTML and CSS. It's literally just a browser with most of the default browser UI being hidden. Something like React Native would better fit your definition.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

It's not literally just a browser. It's literally just a web engine with a full set of OS calls hooked in. It is not a browser in the same way GNOME is not an OS. A browser comes with a whole lot more than a web engine, so calling it "a browser" is wrong both technically and colloquially.

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago

I'm on my lunch break from working on a React Native codebase, and I wouldn't say RN fits that definition at all... but I think we're just getting lost in semantics.

My point was just that a web app running inside a browser has to abide by the rules and limitations set by the browser, whereas Electron flips that relationship -- your app sets the rules and limitations of what can be done, and the web rendering process abides by whatever environment you create. You can do anything the OS permits. Even from inside a web context, if you want. You don't need a browser-managed sandbox to mediate your interactions with the OS.

[-] Shatter@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But probably Chromium right? They probably didn't make all Discord functions work for Firefox as that would require some extra work probably.

[-] webjukebox@mujico.org 42 points 1 year ago

Yes, electron.

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[-] FoxBJK@midwest.social 57 points 1 year ago

I’m a little baffled by this one. File upload isn’t exactly some new HTML5.1 feature or anything. There’s no good reason they can’t have this handled properly.

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 32 points 1 year ago

I bet if you switch user agents it works just fine.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 76 points 1 year ago

Here's what happens when you spoof a Chrome user-agent.

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[-] mplewis@lemmy.globe.pub 25 points 1 year ago

It’s probably the AudioData API.

[-] abfarid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

There's really no reason to be mad at them in this particular instance. Their client is Chromium-based (Electron) so they will optimize their new features for that engine first. There's probably less than 5% users who Discord from browser, let alone Firefox, and I think I'm being generous with that number. Additionally, some things are harder to implement (or even impossible) in native web rather than Electron, that has all the NodeJS integrations.

[-] ehrenschwan@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

File upload is not a chromium feature, it's a super old basic feature. It's just their pittiness and upcoming drm implications. I bet if you set your user-agent to chrome it woould work just fine.

[-] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

Firefox doesn’t implement the AudioData API, which is probably necessary for the waveform viewer and cropping tool Discord presents in the soundboard management UI.

Not everything is about Chrome DRM yall.

Edited to add screenshot of spoofing user-agent on Firefox and getting an error:

https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/4edb0d24-0c2a-4610-b7b2-eed07a3c7d24.png

Here’s what happens when you spoof a Chrome user-agent.

https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/d3b96401-956b-4eab-bc5c-64b0743feae4.png

-kibiz0r@midwest.social

[-] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

This dialog doesn't do just file upload, after you upload you can cut the sound file into a 4-second clip, inside the client. My bet is that it might technically be possible to do it in Firefox, but not with the same exact code as with chromium, and thus they decided they don't care.

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[-] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I ditched Discord a few weeks ago. I moved to Matrix!

[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

Not to be discouraging, but i managed to quit discord for a few months, but i returned again, turns out many projects, even open source, use discord for discussion only

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[-] PhiAU@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

codes a desktop OS specific program coded in C just to spite you

To be honest I absolutely hate everything being a browser app.

[-] walnutwalrus@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

element / matrix instead

[-] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

Discord is such an obvious "stay the fuck away from" product.

[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 11 points 1 year ago

With the same critical mass of users that most proprietary social media have, unfortunately. You'll be lucky to find certain communities on Matrix at all.

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[-] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 year ago

I said 'fuck you" to Slack for similar reasons. Going to same the same to Discord now.

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[-] thecam@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Eventually I can see discord discontinuing their web client to push you users into installing their spyware.

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[-] starman@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago

There is FOSS wrapper for discord called webcord, if you have to use discord but want a bit more privacy.

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[-] Anamana@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

People use discord in the browser? Damn boi

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

Never use an app for what should be a web site.

[-] Anamana@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It works better for me as an app. I don't like my browsers to be cluttered like that. But if it fits your usecase

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[-] cmrss2@aussie.zone 28 points 1 year ago

At least you can block some of the telemetry with uBlock or similar

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