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[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Kentucky fried chicken chef guy is absolutely SLAYING those short shorts and boots 🔥🤩

Edit: apparently I already made this joke and forgot about it lmao

[-] Zip2@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

Should have stuck with the monarchy they had.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Brave of the Bri'ish to remind America they exist as we're on the cusp of our own outright Empire phase.

It's not poor countries that speak a different language that empires like to annex first.

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Don't blame the founding fathers that all these hippies moved to California /s

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[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 month ago

Disingenuous. That's 21 states and 42 senators.

Now do representatives, which was originally supposed to match population distribution.

[-] Tower@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago
[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

Alaska and Hawaii what?

From context I assume you mean they have a different number of senators? One? None?

[-] Tower@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

You counted 21, but that didn't include Alaska and Hawaii. That's how OP got 23 states / 46 senators.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

Derp. I didn't actually count them, I just divided 46 by two and got... 21 :-/

TYVM.

[-] CoopaLoopa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Not sure why Hawaii is included in this meme. Hawaii has only had 1 Republican senator since it became a state in 1959.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We have the technology to implement some direct democracy and get away from all this "represntitive democracy" that doesnt work so well. Let people vote on the actual issues and we'll get progressive policies pretty quickly, we wont get into wars, we'll spend much less on defense, and the corporatists wont be able to buy influence as easily.

i honestly don't believe that any of this would be true. Unless you went the libertarian route and pretend that the people know better than the government at all levels. Maybe i'm just cynical. But there's a federal government for a reason so.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

so you dont beleive in democracy, sounds like.

i like democracy, just not when people are allowed to make decisions directly. Look at brexit.

Representative democracy, or something like the US has with actual electors who aren't just idiots would be great. But unfortunately they're also stupid.

[-] dnick@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Land doesn't vote, but groups do. The Constitution was written to accommodate both points, the Senate so each state has an equal vote, which is fair in respect to the fact that the Constitution is and agreement between states, and Congress where states with more people get more votes, because that is a legitimate perspective as well. It's not perfect to start with, and it's been modified poorly over time (representation hasn't been kept proportional in Congress), but it is fair to say that each state having an equal vote is one valid point of view, and the founders realized that it wasn't the only valid point of view.

Don't attribute the 'states rights' phrase to me as though I'm on the wrong side of the civil war or something. The country can't be entirely directed by states regardless of population, but the states can't be directed by other states based solely on population either.

yeah...

It's the senate.

You forgot to look at the house lmao.

[-] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While they benefited from it later at this point Virginia was a population powerhouse, the actual states pushing for this were the small New England states, I think some of them only gave up their giant western claims(google 'long connecticut') in exchange for it.

It was also a compromise. Proto-Federalists wanted a direct democracy determined by population, Proto-Democratic-Republicans wanted each state to get one vote. In the end they split the difference, House was determined by population, Senate by states, and the president by a hybrid system that didn't fully give either what they wanted.

If you went back in time to stop the electoral college you could just as easily get a 'One vote per state for president, 26 votes wins' system instead of a direct democracy.

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