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[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 158 points 1 year ago

Here is a Google image of Dodge ram 3500. EVEN IF YOU NEED A CAR, NO ONE NEEDS A VEHICLE THIS BIG.

[-] renlok@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago

But how else can you ensure a 100% fatality rate of everything you run over.

[-] Noughmad@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And also make sure that you don't have to see the poor people as you run them over.

[-] M0oP0o@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

The issue is not so much size but height. These things are all over where I am as fleet vehicles and even the good ol' type will comment that they can not see anything in front. Just look at the door or normal car in the background of that picture and you get an idea. These hoods are no joke 1.7 meters high for no other reason then to look mean.

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago
[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

This is a lot of space to tell me what I already know, that driving my Abrams tank is very safe for me and pretty safe for others

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Got me thinking, why don't they put forward facing cameras? Like how we have backup cams.

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[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

It's wild how there's this kind of evolutionary pressure to turn the grills into ever bigger and more menacing threat displays and it just keeps spiralling out of control because the cars in the rear view mirror only keep getting bigger and more intimidating and you constantly need to buy a new ego prosthetic in the form of a suburban tank like this to keep up with the other drivers that signal "I'M GONNA EAT YOU ALIVE" to you during every commute and grocery run. I'm sure manufacturers love that.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

I need a pickup truck for farm work, but I hate how big these things have gotten. I wouldn't buy anything made in the past 20 years. All this height for no practical benefit.

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[-] Adeptfuckup@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

GMC named their bro-dozers AT-4. AT as in anti-tank. They're marketing to the suburban tacticool jackasses. Loud exhaust and parking in crowded bus shelters. Yeah fuck these guys.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 1 year ago

But what if you want to run over all your children in one go?

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[-] Fuckass@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

But I’m a poor, blue collar worker who lives in the country side and need to carry my very heavy tools (6 hammers and a wrench) that a truck from the 2000s cannot handle

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[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Look, I'm terribly insecure and fragile. You expect me to drive something reasonable?

[-] Grass@geddit.social 13 points 1 year ago

A used ranger accommodated all of my hauling needs with room to spare when I needed it for work. I drove the company pickup which had the double rear tires once and it was awful and I couldn't recommend it even just for doing pickup truck things.

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

how else are they supposed to haul around their ego?

[-] grue@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

So it would've been fine and dandy if the cyclist had been killed by someone driving a Prius?

'Cause that's what you imply by placing this bullshit emphasis trying to single out big trucks in particular. Comments like yours reek of implied small-car apologism, and I, for one, am getting sick and hired of it!

There's a reason this community is called "fuck cars," and not "fuck big trucks" or something. it's because the problem is cars — all of them!

Any car, even the smallest, can turn a pedestrian or cyclist into a red smear when driven negligently.

Every car, even the smallest, takes up an entire lane on the street and an entire parking space.

Every car, even the smallest, contributes to car-dependent urban design.

Singling out big trucks as if they're materially worse than all the other death machines is nothing but a distraction from the real problem at best, and an active disinformation campaign at worst. Our goals should be to get people out of cars entirely, not just into smaller ones!

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it probably wouldn't have happened in the first place, because the driver of a sensibly-sized car can see things that are less than fifty fucking feet ahead of the dash.

Monstrous behemoths like this should be prohibitively expensive to own for personal use and/or be restricted to industrial/ag use only. Fuck your camping or hauling one chair or whatever the fuck you do twice a year. You can rent for something that seldom.

[-] M0oP0o@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are last time I checked "prohibitively expensive" but people are dumb enough to pay $100k over 8 year financing. These things are also no better for "industrial/ag" then a truck from 30 years ago that was 4 feet less tall, had an 8 foot bed and a similar towing capacity at a fraction of the price.

These things are the crystallization of our hubris.

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[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

The thing is, they are materially worse than other consumer vehicles. They do all the bad things but more, and their normalization makes it all worse for everyone -- have you seen the size of parking spaces in Europe?

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[-] FReddit@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

There is evidence that these shit wagons are largely responsible for a major increase in pedestrian fatalities.

EVs are also a cause, because of their heavy batteries. It's like getting hit by a tank.

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[-] bossito@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

No, not all cars are created equally. Some require much more public space and some are also much more efficient at killing.

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

My truck is a good boy, he wouldn't harm a fly. It's all about upbringing, genetics has nothing to do with it.

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[-] Melonius@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Fuck cars but trucks and SUVs are more dangerous than cars to pedestrians, and to argue otherwise just makes you look silly

https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?t=521

active disinformation campaign at worst

Relax

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

This community is so fucking funny.

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[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Vehicular manmurder is more like it.

[-] M0oP0o@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Driver faces hit-run homicide

The first part of the headline does a fair job of pointing out the murder.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 34 points 1 year ago

in case anyone does not want to click the link here is the whole article:

Brian Hammons, 55, faces hit-run and criminally negligent homicide charges.

SALEM, Ore. (KOIN) — A man turned himself into investigators on Sunday after fatally striking a bicyclist on a highway, then leaving the scene, according to Oregon State Police.

Brian Hammons, 55, faces hit-run and criminally negligent homicide charges.

Just after 7 p.m. Saturday, police say they responded to the collision in Marion County on Hwy 64 near milepost 5. According to investigators, the bicyclist, Harley Austin, 42, was riding south in the bike lane on Hwy 164 through the intersection of Talbot Rd SE when Hammons, who was driving a Dodge Ram 3500, turned onto the highway and collided with Austin. New Level 3 ‘Go Now’ evacuations issued for Bedrock Fire

Austin was taken to Salem Hospital, and was later pronounced dead, OSP said.

Authorities allege that Hammons left the scene after the arrival of medical personnel but before law enforcement arrived. He turned himself in the next day and was lodged in the Marion County Jail.

The investigation is ongoing. Any witnesses of the incident are being encouraged to contact OSP, referencing case SP23-252845.

[-] unipadfox@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

The article seems fine to me...the title is just a little bit strange probably because they wanted to mention "bike" in it to differentiate it from a crash that doesn't involve a cyclist.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

I think you're reaching for something to be angry on this one. I read the title as "[car] crash [involving a] bike". Shorthand is not at all uncommon in headlines, which need to be snappy. They're not trying to frame the incident as caused by the bike or anything.

[-] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Car crash makes people think of only cars. Bike crash would imply a bike and car.

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[-] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

They’ve been doing this talking about e-bike fatalities non-stop. “E-bikes are dangerous…. 42 people died on e-bikes…” they cite the statistics, but never mention how many of those people were ran over by assholes who don’t respect the danger of their cars.

[-] Adeptfuckup@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I'm not angry at the headline. Just. Not a god damned thing is being done to slow down pedestrian and cyclists death on our streets and roads. Not a thing. All we get is a fucking painted line and hope that some asshole doesn't hit you. Start impounding peoples cars for traffic violations. Increase fines so luxury car drivers think twice about driving on the sidewalk.

[-] M0oP0o@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Honestly you could do a lot by simply charging people the same as non car related crimes. Like if you or I got pissed/trashed/inebriated and killed a person we would get a totally different outcome if the tool used was a brick or a car.

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[-] gramathy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

To be fair calling it just a “crash” implies car vs car so calling it a “bike crash” conveys more i formation but makes it seem like only bikes were involved.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago

Just after 7 p.m. Saturday, police say they responded to the collision in Marion County on Hwy 64 near milepost 5. According to investigators, the bicyclist, Harley Austin, 42, was riding south in the bike lane on Hwy 164 through the intersection of Talbot Rd SE when Hammons, who was driving a Dodge Ram 3500, turned onto the highway and collided with Austin.

Why is there a bike lane on a highway?

To be clear, I'm not taking the side of the driver. Fuck people with unnecessarily huge vehicles. I side with cyclists almost 100% of the time. But this just sounds unsafe.

To me, a highway means speeds in excess of 50mph. That isn't a place where we should have a body unprotected sharing the road.

[-] brianorca@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In some rural areas, the "highway" is literally the only way to get from point A to point B. Many businesses and homes are directly on the highway. It's not the same as Interstate 5 which is a few miles west of there.

Unlike a freeway, which has bigger speed limits, a highway is just any road designed for high traffic. It still has intersections, traffic lights, and driveways into properties.

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[-] judgeholden@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

least homicidal dodge ram driver

[-] M0oP0o@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I am a bit lost, the articles title is "Driver faces hit-run homicide in Marion County bike crash". This seems to not put any blame on the cyclist. It seems much like any time a car hits and kills something, what am I missing?

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