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[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago

Why US gov need to know about people's period?, that's weird and creepy

[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 6 points 23 hours ago

tf is usa on, why they need perios statistics

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago

So they can prosecute people for getting illegal abortions.

[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

typical Trump presidency bullshit. Yet they fail to prosecuate many gangsters and rich money launderers. like this was the biggest problem ever

This is awesome, thank you for your service! Goddamn, the premises around that are just... sad.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

Why does a period tracking app even need to store the data anywhere other than locally?

[-] sus@programming.dev 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

their given reasons are "to keep backups" and "academic and clinical research with de-identified datasets"

they seem to actually do a fairly good job with anonymizing the research datasets, unlike most "anonymized research data", though for the raw data stored on their servers, they do not seem to use encryption properly and their security model is "the cloud hoster wouldn't spy on the data right?" (hint: their data is stored on american servers, so the american authorities can just subpoena Amazon Web Services directly, bypassing all their "privacy guarantees". (the replacement for the EU-US Privacy Shield seems to be on very uncertain legal grounds, and that was before the election))

[-] ballmerpeaking@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

De-identified data is an oxymoron. Basically any dataset that's in any way interesting is identifiable.

[-] sus@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

no it's not. If you reduce the information in the datapoints until none of them are unique, then it is very obviously impossible to uniquely identify someone from them. And when you have millions of users the data can definitely still be kept interesting

(though there's pretty big pitfalls here, as their report seems to leave open the possibility of not doing it correctly)

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Sometimes people get new phones πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

dude, phones have built-in functions to transfer data seamlessly, i helped my dad with that a while back and it amounts to pressing some buttons and putting the phones on top of each other..

if that's too difficult i think you need a personal assistant.

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Why are you being so condescending?

Phones get lost, stolen, damaged beyond repair. I knew a woman whose phone fell into a body of water on vacation and couldn't be recovered.

When you have an app used by millions of people, which they depend on for tracking wellness, health issues, reproductive planning, etc. it makes sense to have a cloud backup for those inevitable situations.

Also yes, not everyone knows how to initiate an NFC file transfer, or even how to navigate their phone's file system to select the data to transfer. You often have to develop software to the lowest common denominator. There's open source options like Mensinator for people who want more control and privacy, but most software on the app store is targeted at less technical people.

[-] ValiantDust@feddit.org 129 points 2 days ago

If anyone is in need of a more secure option in these dystopian times: drip keeps all your data on your phone. You can export the data, so you can keep the tracked data when changing phones. I only use it for tracking my cycle and sometimes symptoms though, so I can't say much about using it for birth control.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Apple’s Cycle Tracking app is also locally and E2E encrypted in iCloud.

When your phone is locked with a passcode, Touch ID, or Face ID, all of your health and fitness data in the Health app, other than your Medical ID, is encrypted. Any health data synced to iCloud is encrypted both in transit and on our servers. And if you have a recent version of watchOS and iOS with the default two-factor authentication and a passcode, your health and activity data will be stored in a way that Apple can’t read it.

This means that when you use the Cycle Tracking feature and have enabled two-factor authentication, your health data synced to iCloud is encrypted end-to-end and Apple does not have the key to decrypt the data and therefore cannot read it.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/120356

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure. It's encrypted. And your private data only stays on your device. Pinky swear.

With our 10 billion $ in ad revenue, you can trust that your data never makes it to a third party unencrypted 😚

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] uis@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"If you are paying, it doesn't mean you are not the product"

- Cory Doctorow

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’m not sure what that license has to do with Apple’s privacy policy. Apple uses ML to place ads alongside relevant content. They provide no customer information to advertisers. They generate so much ad revenue by keeping a sizable 30% from the advertisers.

https://support.apple.com/guide/news-publisher/earn-revenue-with-advertising-on-apple-news-apdd44eeeeeb/icloud

https://support.apple.com/guide/adguide/generate-revenue-apd51c721ca9/icloud

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 16 points 2 days ago

onlinepersona posts that on every comment they make. They're licensing their comments under CC BY-SA-NC 4.0. Given the context of the conversation it may have sounded confusing.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 points 2 days ago
[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

That’s the second time you posted that. What does it have to do with Apple’s privacy?

[-] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

The link has nothing to do with the comment, some people just add that to all their posts because they think it will prevent LLMs from using their comments as training data. It's useless and very stupid imo, equivalent to people on facebook a few years back copy and pasting that text about owning their pictures and not giving fb permission to use them even though permission was already given in the sign up agreement.

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[-] Acters@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Oh that guy posts that link in every post he makes because he trusts the data scraping companies and legal authorities to enforce it/make it a pain to ingest his data. When in reality he is a hypocrite as his sarcasm is stupid.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Is the app and the OS open source? No? Then please shut the fuck up with your dangerous "advice". People really still havent understood how this shit works. How is this being upvoted? Corporations do not deserve your trust when they claim things without proving them.

This is not a joke, this shit affects peoples lives. After spearheading the technology for creeps to stalk people with physical tags, and being the first to experiment with client side communications scanning, how do people still not understand that apple is just as bad as the rest.

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[-] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

For better E2E encryption, you should turn on Advanced Data Protection: https://support.apple.com/en-us/108756

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[-] Undaunted@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 days ago

I know it's not feasible, but if a lot of males would just use the apps that are know to report to US authorities and input data, that most likely will raise a alarms, they would have to deal with heaps of false-positives and it would obscure the real data.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I just experienced my first period as a 38 year old male. I know almost nothing about them, so this is gonna be a wild ride for anyone who reads my stats.

[-] Ellvix@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I'm in. Anyone know of any apps that DO report data?

[-] Proposal6114@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

Same, ready to poison data against fascists anytime.

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[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 2 days ago

Any woman on here, please consider bluemoon. My wife is tech illiterate but loves the app.

Bluemoon (Open source, privacy friendly menstruation tracking app. Your period, your data!) https://f-droid.org/packages/ch.nilsgrob.android.bluemoon/

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

~~That's nice, but why does that data need to be on their servers in the first place?~~

Ok, so apparently they don't store the data by default. Guessing they could if the user wants it backed up or synced across devices.

[-] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

I imagine they collect data to improve their algorithm so it can more accurately predict a woman's cycle. Quite a few women use these apps as an alternative birth control, so knowing the specific days where they need to avoid sex is helpful.

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[-] far_university190@feddit.org 24 points 2 days ago

female and male staff members at Clue, based in Berlin

Basiert und in Berlin.

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[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago

Can I get a reminder about the apps that WILL share with the govt so I can help fuck with their data?

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 days ago

All US-based apps and all the apps that store their data in US-owned cloud providers at very least.

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[-] higgsboson@dubvee.org 1 points 1 day ago

Probably the rest of them.

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

It makes zero sense in keeping the data unencrypted in ang cloud. People usually don't share their cycles details on the public internet.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

DO NOT put this kind of information in an app!

If you absolutely have to have it in your phone, use the calendar and pick some event that's plausible monthly with a unique name so you can search on it. "Checked for Mxyzlptik updates", "Look at travel to Canada prices" or whatever.

If you need more functionality than that you'll need an offline solution. We live in a fascist dictatorship now. They hate women. And they will 100% use that information against you if they can.

[-] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 days ago

I'm glad this article is about Clue. I hope I can continue to trust them.

I've been using Clue for years and it's nicely trans-friendly and not-pink. When I was first looking for a period app, many options were focused on fertility--either seeking or avoiding pregnancy--which rubbed me the wrong way.

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