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Women “would have their uteruses removed when they turn over 30,” Naoki Hyakuta, leader of the Conservative Party of Japan, said in a stream on his YouTube channel on Friday.

On the channel, he also said that he would make it law for “women who are single after 25 years old not to be allowed to marry.”

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Later, Hyakuta posted an apology on his X account. “I cannot deny that the expressions were too harsh,” he said. “I apologize for those who were offended.”

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[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 174 points 5 days ago

WTF is happening in this world

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 146 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've been saying it since 2015, but it bears repeating!

The global conservative propaganda machine — lead by the US and Russia — is using all of the data obtained from surveillance capitalism to target, A/B test, and iterate on psychological warfare across social media in real-time (as close to as the platforms allow). The most criminally corrupt and sociopathic benefit the most, as there is no limit to how depraved they will go — bots, lies, disinformation, deep fakes, utilizing actual criminal enterprises and scam operations, illegally obtained data — they will do whatever it takes to succeed.

There really isn't much difference between persuading you to buy a product and persuading you to vote for a political party; they both attack similar weaknesses and vulnerabilities, and the process of building the data pipelines and statistical models is nearly identical. People who knew history were always saying that this is what surveillance capitalism would lead to eventually. I don't think any of us thought it would happen so quickly, but the lack of regulation and highly centralized nature of social media meant that a relatively small operation could access 90% of the Internet using population.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 51 points 5 days ago

Persuading you to vote for their guy, or if you’re disinclined to do so, persuading you to not vote by instilling disgust/outrage (see also: “Genocide Joe”) or just a blackpilled sense of powerlessness.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 35 points 5 days ago

Unchecked access to the internet by people who aren't emotionally mature enough to handle it.

Allowing all of humanity onto the internet when 30% of people still believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows was a mistake.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago

Allowing all of humanity onto the internet when 30% of people still believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows was a mistake.

You are referrering to children. Right? And I've lived a considerable amount of my life taking this as an urban legend. Not a fact.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

My apologies. I totally flipped some numbers. It's actually 7% of people (not children) surveyed believe that chocolate milk is from brown cows.

Now the survey wasn't too robust with 5000 total respondents but it's still embarrassing that that number isn't like "Seven American adults in total believe chocolate milk is from brown cows"

Here's a CNN fluff piece on it https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/us/chocolate-milk-help-trnd/index.html

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[-] 418_im_a_teapot@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Here’s a real number. 56% of Americans read at or below a sixth grade reading level.

When complex topics like the economy are discussed, _at least _ 56% can’t comprehend the concepts because they lack the vocabulary. They do not understand how government works, or their own bodies, or diplomacy, or historical contexts. They are not capable of being part of many important national conversations.

Now couple this with the fact that Democrats are terrible at messaging and simplifying complex policy into digestible sound bites while Republicans have perfected it, and you can easily see how we get to where we are now.

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[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 30 points 5 days ago

Men are going off the deep end

[-] 418_im_a_teapot@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

And many of us men are just as baffled by it. I honestly don’t understand why there are so many men – who I’m sure shutter at any mention of a woman’s period – that feel the need to control every aspect of reproduction and do so in the most cruel ways.

But also, the women who voted in support of those men are exponentially more baffling to me.

My brain hurts trying to understand it.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Imagine being told every minute of every day that you don’t matter. That as a woman, your only purpose is to glorify men, support men, breed more men. That it’s the greatest and highest calling of women to surrender your life and your choices to men.

That women are stupid and sinners because of Eve’s actions, and will be forever. So you can never be allowed any kind of authority, because like Eve you’ll just do something foolish or abuse it.

Now imagine everyone and everything around you shows and supports this worldview. All the time.

That’s where it comes from. When something is all you’ve ever known, then it’s normal. And, even if you consciously don’t believe it, it still worms its way inside of you.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 101 points 4 days ago

Smart move for a country with a birth rate going off the cliffs and a terminal case of xenophobism.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago

My assumption is this is to increase the birth rate. The birth rate over 30 is probably lower, and putting a deadline forces you into a FOMO situation. You fear the consequences, so you just get married and have children.

Obviously, this is horrible for human rights (if you consider the rights of women to be human rights, which I at least do). I'm just saying it may be better for births than it appears. It's like video games restricting sale of items can increase sales of them. The human brain is easily manipulated by FOMO, especially with something this severe I'd imagine.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 4 days ago

The birth rate over 30 is probably lower, and putting a deadline forces you into a FOMO situation.

I've a heard a similar theory explaining why some (U.S.) Republicans want to ban fertility treatments: FOMO to have kids younger because you might not be able to later.

I personally think this will not work out the way they plan it to, bu there is a twisted train of thought behind it.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I'm actually hella curious what the context was here. Why would he want any of that?

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 87 points 4 days ago

“I apologize for those who were offended.”

‘I’m sorry you’re offended by my abhorrent opinions’

Notice he’s not actually apologizing. At all. He’s just sorry he’s catching flak about it

[-] warbond@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

I'm sorry you think I need to apologize

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 102 points 5 days ago

Just in case anyone is wondering, this is a fringe right-wing party with one seat in Japanese Parliament's lower house.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 51 points 4 days ago

This is how it started in most EU countries: one MP who is an idiot, but gains in representation every election by also taking advantage of the contradictions of governing. These idiots did not use to grow, but now they do...and they are networked too now.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

From one seat in my country to almost having a full right wing government in the last elections. Yeah, it's not gonna end well for nobody if this shit keeps going up everywhere.

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[-] k0mprssd@lemmy.zip 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

good point, but I worry about a loop of the media giving attention, making people more aware that this party exists, ignorant people give them more support, repeat. seems like a similar strategy happened in the us with our media giving trump endless headlines.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago

this is a fringe right-wing party with one seat in Japanese Parliament's lower house.

One seat too many, if this is the attitude of their leader.

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 days ago

Trump was considered a fringe party to.

[-] 332@feddit.nu 105 points 5 days ago

What the fuck is even going on here, this doesn't even align with their own weird agenda? This just seems psychotic for it's own sake.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Shock and Awe. He will say some heinous shit in a few days that’s slightly less evil and that will sound reasonable to the rightoids

Basically how Trump speech got normalized in the west.

[-] variants@possumpat.io 17 points 4 days ago

And then slowly go back to the original plan

[-] 418_im_a_teapot@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Is it really any different than forcing a woman to carry and raise her rapist’s child?

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[-] VerticaGG 48 points 4 days ago

Passing this on:

A uterus is NOT disposable even when you don't want to have kids - it serves a purpose in women's bodily health. If you need to get it removed for health reasons then absolutely do it, but please don't ever think uterus + breasts serve no purpose when you're not having kids. They greatly participate in the hormonal health of the body & brain, in the lymphatic structure, keeping other organs in their place, and it has been now proven by studies that if you do a hysterectomy when young it greatly affects your risk to get alzheimer's/dementia. This is not to say you shouldn't take care of your reproduction or get yourself sterilized if you want. But patriarchy has already commodified every body part of ours; please, let's appreciate our natural bodies and health and not take it for granted. Please do not think your bodyparts are disposable if you are not having kids. That's what men think. Your body parts are valuable and an important part of YOU. They serve YOU and your health, no-one else. You are not a barbie doll that can have parts taken out without consequences. You do not consist of parts, you are a whole person. You are a lovely, important human, and your health and body parts belong to you. I know we are taught to think about ourselves as a collection of body parts and to nit pick them apart, but I want to stress this is a patriarchal way of thinking. Your womb does not suddenly become irrelevant if you're not in relationships with men. It is still hugely important to YOU.💜

So yeah, as usual, why in the world should anyone except the person with the uterus, getting a say in the matter?

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 63 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Because reading those sentences severely reduced my intelect, can please someone explain the brain dead logic of that loon? in very simple terms

What is to gain from sterilizing women? In a severely aged country with low birth rates, as it is?

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 85 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Its a threat to woman that if they don't get married young and have babies, the government will hurt them.

That it. Do what we say or else. The standard conservative line with women.

With trumps win, expect more of this. Being a complete piece of shit clearly works, so this will only escalate. Getting attention, even by being a vile misogynist, is a winning move now.

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[-] Bougie_Birdie 15 points 4 days ago

This seems to be about oppressing women while uplifting the creepiest sort of men.

To give the maximum benefit of the doubt (which frankly, I don't think they deserve), there's evidence to suggest that birth defects become more likely as the mother gets older. I've always understood that to happen in women of a more advanced age though, 30 is too young to be a cutoff.

Also, women can't marry older than 25? What kind of bass ackwards handmaid's tale bullshit is that? If you want to have a family I guess you've got to hitch your wagon to any horse you can get your hands on. They're so fortunate though that the law doesn't apply to men, so they'll have plenty of creepy fifty year old dudes to choose from.

I think as a rule we should start sterilizing politicians who endorse sterilization. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Of course, a hysterectomy is quite an invasive procedure compared to a vasectomy, so maybe in the interest of equitability we should begin with castration.

Anyway, this kind of rhetoric isn't really for women - they just happen to be the ones affected by it. For the men that this appeals to, they're probably believe they're more likely to attract a virginal beauty if they start removing women's options. It's truly abhorrent.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago

Sterilization for those who support it seems a fair proposal. Set an example.

[-] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

women can't marry older than 25? What kind of bass ackwards handmaid's tale bullshit is that?

Japanese instructors in college would tell us how older unmarried women would be referred to as 'Christmas Cakes'--no one wanted one after the 25th. Although they were happy that had been a changing attitude.

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[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 53 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Is it Japan's turn to have a go at surfing the wave of stupid?

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago

Always has been. It’s a country of racist conservatives that continue to deny past genocides. They’re good at cleaning things tho.

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[-] Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago

What in the fuck did I just read

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[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

As a single (gay) woman over 30 who’s tired of having a uterus I’m moving to japan lmfao

[-] hungryphrog 10 points 4 days ago

I'm going to remove this guy's lungs if he doesn't shut the fuck up

[-] fin@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 days ago

Naoki Hyakuta

He’s a notorious piece of crap in Japan.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 30 points 5 days ago

Women over 30 cant marry? I think this dude is a lolicon. Someone check his pc.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Won't do any good. Legal age of consent in Japan is 13.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not since last year, when it was raised to 16.

Even then that was the national minimum set over a hundred years ago.

In practice it's 18 in most prefectures, and has been for years, due to local law setting it to something sane.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

Maybe a Japanese politician should be aware of his country's history on the matter before discussing forced sterilization...

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[-] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

The Japanese branch of the Taliban.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 days ago

Someone got jilted by a 17 year old

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Imagine one of your brain cells trying to gain a leadership position by promising to make your body jump off the next cliff you see

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Free tube tying for everyone above 25? I knew about some villages in poor rural India and african countries that did this to limit teen pregnancy and over population. The complete opposite of what Japan is dealing with

[-] xorollo@leminal.space 7 points 4 days ago

I read uterus removal, not tube tying. Maybe a pedantic difference, but is he explicitly trying to highlight the threat value for the statement?

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