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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3191712

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3302765

I'll start the popcorn machine 🍿

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[-] TheWaterGod@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy.ca has been defederated from Lemmygrad ever since I've been a member (June), so that's not anything new. Looks like it goes back to at least September of last year.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Thanks! I didn't realize that you could put /instances after an instance's URL (e.g., lemmy.ca/instances) and see which are currently linked and blocked (page search can help)

[-] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

page search can help

Ctrl+F, my friend.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Anon819450514@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

They are communists that don't want anything to do with the real world. Good riddance.

[-] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Not communists lol authoritarians.

[-] asuka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Blocking them will just serve to isolate them more. You don't solve problems by closing off everyone who disagrees with each other into a thousand little bubbles.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Okay, so what problems have been solved by giving platforms to extremists?

[-] Anon819450514@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They have the option to do it and they did. The fediverse was made exactly for this situation and its nice it's like this. It's not 'how' it should be running, it's more of respecting all others choices: you don't tell people what to do. Simple.

That move will tell you more on this community, than all the effort they could deploy to convince more people into their delirious system.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

They weren't engaging in good faith political discussion. They were shitting in their own hands and flinging it at people who weren't interested in being covered in their shit. If you want to be covered in their shit you can create an account on those instances just as I can choose not to.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Was there any vote or announcement about this on lemmy.ca? Or are we hearing after the fact, and on another instance, that our instance has contentiously and quietly defederated from 2 other instances?

[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

No we dropped the ball on this one, we should have posted right away.

Lemmy.ml has been defederated for a long time.

https://lemmy.ca/post/3326347

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I appreciate the post and response!

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I understand that defederating is part of running an instance and that decisions are not always clear cut. If I were an admin, I'd report newly defederated instances in a post or something. It doesn't seem like appreciably more work than what being an admin already entails (which must be a lot!) and makes things transparent. I'm here in the Fediverse because I don't like what's going on on the rest of the big tech internet, and I want to get involved in an alternate model. Hearing that a politically aligned instance was silently defederated on .ca reminds me of what I am hoping to distance myself from online versus find more of now. Ditto for the the downvotes without replies. That said, other commenters have helped me see site maintenance as opposed to political orientation reasons that could motivate defederation. On reflection, I think I want to get involved in an expressly curated (in a way that I approve of) and/or pretty transparent Fediverse environment

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

The great thing about the fediverse is that no one can stop you from participating in those instances. You can create local accounts as I have done on several instances. The mobile clients let you switch easily between accounts on different instances

[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I agree! I strongly believe we should be transparent with actions such as defederation.

[-] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Woohooo!!!! Free at last!!!

[-] asuka@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

There's a certain irony to celebrating the admins building a wall between two communities as "freedom".

[-] Guns4Gnus@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

If a community exists only to cause issues and inflame culture warrior issues (such as anti-woke,) they don't deserve to be given an honest chance.

Honest chances exist for honest people. If they refuse to abide by the common rules of decency, and instead want to treat the place like /b/, we have no obligations to let them be heard.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

If you think there is anything of value on either of those instances you can create accounts on both and participate directly. That's what's great about the fediverse.

[-] zesty@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Bye tankies, you won't be missed

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Personally, I'm against defederation for political reasons. This feels like a mistake that will serve only to reinforce echo chambers online.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They weren't "defederated for political reasons". What they were doing wasn't good faith political speech. They were trolls who's only purpose was creating chaos. If you're really dedicated to their actions this is the fediverse, you can create an account there and read and participate as much as you want. Every user can decide for themselves if there is anything of any value there. I don't think so so I'll be staying right here.

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