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[-] tla@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Capitalism ~~will cost~~ is costing us the Earth

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

You're just repeating the title

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, famously anti-capitalist Conservatives...

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, famously anti-capitalist Liberalism....

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Most western conservatives are economically liberal, though there are certainly stupIDPol or maga "communism" types.

In general, the left-right political spectrum that implies liberals can be leftist or that conservatives can't be liberals is oversimplified, inaccurate, and not how the vast majority of people actually view politics.

Most working-class people do want social benefits for example and may therefore be considered economically leftist, but if they're in an economically disadvantaged region they may have a backwards view on social norms and be considered socially right-wing.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

While presenting itself as the antidote to a rising fascist tide, establishment liberalism is in denial about the many ways it has been the cause or enabler of that tide.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This article is excellent, even if many here will be offended by the headline and refuse to read further.

This part struck me:

In the United States and elsewhere (think of French President Emmanuel Macron’s disastrous electoral machinations), the liberal centrism or ​“progressive neoliberalism” that casts itself as the bulwark against fascism is proving to be anything but. Not only has it contributed to the social miseries upon which reactionary politics feeds — mass incarceration, predatory finance, imperialist war and the rollback of social welfare have all been bipartisan projects in the past half-century — but it stands revealed as a failed brand, kept alive primarily by the investments of party elites and donors, but also by what historian Adam Tooze calls its profound narcissism. This delusional conviction that it is a historical force for progress, sanity and the good makes elite liberal politicians slip easily into paternalism and condescension—something many voters find more offensive than direct insults. 


Edit, Jesus what a banger. The last paragraph is perfect, too

An anti-fascist politics does not require constantly decrying the fascism of your opponent (which may prove numbing or alienating) but it certainly has to cleave to a different logic than that which ​“depends on the moment” or on electoral calculus alone. It needs to discover ways to not just make emancipatory ideas popular — fortunately, many of them already are — but to weave them into a project rooted in everyday needs. To this end, liberal centrism is not just useless, it is an obstacle. It demands endless moral and political sacrifices from leftists and progressives, while not even serving as a decent vehicle for the kind of reformist compromises we might expect from representative politics. When existential issues are on the agenda, from genocide to the mounting climate catastrophe and the manifold crises it will bring, betting on liberalism is a fool’s errand. 

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Really nails it.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe the problem isn't so much liberalism specifically, but ideology generally. Ideology can become like a religion, adherents come to believe that their ideology is the only correct one and all the other ideologies are heresy. Liberalism is the current orthodoxy and anyone who questions or criticizes it is a heretic.

[-] Maxxie 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ideology is a sociopolitical model of the world. To understand complex system, we have to reduce it to key factors. It's important to remember that it is a fallible oversimplification, but without one we are lost in the noise, blindly reacting to immediate change.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, you're right. It's just ideology so often becomes like a religion, and adherents become similarly incapable of absorbing new information or data, adapting to changes, or analyzing their system critically or objectively.

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