Yeah its fucking both, duh.

No, it's the democrats fault!

If your candidate loses, its the voters fault. If my candidate loses, its the candidates fault.

The whole "Democrats are to blame" thing just seems like a continuation of the media bullshit that we saw through the entire campaign.

Harris was expected to be perfect, but Trump got a pass from the media because everyone already knew he was a shit show and was numb to it. 70+ million people voted for him, even after seeing exactly what he was like for four years and even after he ran an even nastier campaign than last time.

Am I the only one calling bullshit? Trump voters are to blame for Trump, first and foremost. Could the DNC have done better? Sure, but the armchair generals on Lemmy are making it sound like they have all the answers and if they were in charge at the DNC, surely they would have been able to run a campaign that could have beaten Trump.

Clearly it's not that easy folks, Trump and the current anti-facts movement in the US are a huge problem that does not have an easy solution.

Oh wait, it did... the solution was to unite behind an imperfect candidate like we did in 2020, this time with a younger, better spoken and arguably more exciting candidate.

I'm actually getting a bit upset at these idealists. They have this childish notion that democracy works in this tit for tat way where politicians "earn" your vote by instating policies that benefit you and that you believe in. Like grow the fuck up already.

Voter turnout was the second highest since women got the right to vote. Voters came out and narrowly voted for Trump in seven key states. Many didn't like him, but didn't believe that the Dems actually cared about their issues. And while Trump is crass and wish he were nicer, at least life during his presidency wasn't bad for them.

This was the most important election in our life time and the best the Democrats could do was pick the next person in line.

Let me ask you, did voting for Biden actually help?

Keep yelling at those who are so tuned out that they can't care enough to give a fuck about who's running the country. Keep making excuses for the Democrats' decade of mediocre complacency. I'm sure things will change.

It's so fun to blame one single group for a national failure. It's fun, but it just doesn't make any sense.

The sad thing is that we all predicted this blame game would occur. And you can use almost the same words and almost the same reasons and blame a different group, and it sounds about as convincing.

Self-righteous and condescending in nominating a fascist.

Self-righteous and condescending after losing with a fascist.

Go libs!