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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 243 points 1 year ago

I’d pay for YouTube premium if t wasn’t more expensive than HBO. It’s ridiculous. Especially considering YouTube has no production costs. It’s all user-generated content.

[-] dbilitated@aussie.zone 34 points 1 year ago

the users do get paid though, although i'm sure it's a fraction of what youtube makes.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

Hmmm. $20 a month for the big budget action of Westworld, or $20 a month for a cooking show filmed in someone’s basement. Decisions, decisions.

[-] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair, YouTube has far more variety and far more content overall. Personally, I have seen pretty much anything worth watching on the major streaming services. My wife and I can just ignore any top 200 list of shows or movies because we have already seen it all and anything we haven't seen doesn't look interesting to us. We just have to wait for new shows to come out.

YouTube though. It's functionally unlimited considering the length of a human lifespan.

For some insight, a quick Google search says that Netflix has about 4 years of content if you sat down and watched everything they have to offer. Meanwhile, YouTube has about 18,000 years of content.

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[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 192 points 1 year ago

Ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube

  • ad blockers are not "on youtube", they are on my devices

  • allowed by whom?

  • fuck you

[-] pseudo@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago
  • ad blockers are not "on youtube", they are on my devices

based

  • allowed by whom?

checked

  • fuck you

and redpilled

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[-] bappity@lemmy.world 139 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Sponsorblock and Return YT Dislikes FTW as well.

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 26 points 1 year ago

On desktop blocktube has improved things so much too. It has made search results so much better, since YouTube suppresses smaller channels in favor of the same large youtubers depending on the subject. Really wish it could be integrated into mobile YouTube options, but until then my hope is waiting until mobile firefox getting desktop extension support.

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 123 points 1 year ago

Dear Youtube: Bring back the downvote count, allow me to disable shorts, allow me to disable your bullshit annoying ass startup music, then half the price and then we'll talk about paying for your "service".

[-] viking@infosec.pub 37 points 1 year ago

Youtube has startup music???

[-] zerbey@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Yep, on Smart TV devices there's a startup tune.

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[-] anywho@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago

I am paying for YouTube Premium, and yet I still have to skip over US-exclusive sponsor sections which almost every Youtuber has nowadays…

[-] ironic_elk@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

That's why I still use Vanced. Sponsorblock is something I can't live without even though I have YouTube premium.

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[-] Norgur@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

Yeah, almost exclusively either Us-centric and not even available where I live, or so gosh darn expensive that I just will never use the stuff advertised (looking at you, magic spoon)

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[-] 6mementomori@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago

and this is why you should use third party clients/patches like revanced

[-] regbin_@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

No. This is why if you like a service, you pay for it.

[-] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 64 points 1 year ago

if google made youtube premium like $3/month no one would bat an eye and sub. but they're approaching netflix prices and that's just way to much. i rather support the creators directly than throwing money at google who will give the creators crumbs until they demonetize them because google is doing google things. also won't solve the privacy problem that comes with using their native site/apps.

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[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Does YouTube pay their content creators properly? No, they have to rely on external partnerships. Does YouTube help their creators solve issues with greedy companies making copyright claims on not their content? No, they close channels because of such claims and strip creators of income they deserve. Does YouTube keep their platform secure to protect its creators? No, hackers managed to get access to the biggest channels on the platform despite YouTube being aware of the issues for months. Does YouTube at least use their knowledge from spying its users to stop bots posting comments? No, bot comments are all over the place. And I could go like that for ages...

The fact is YouTube is a shitty platform and people use it because they have to not because they want to. Because they have a fucking monopoly! People are paying thousands of dollars directly to content creators through platforms like Patreon, because they like the content. But people are not willing to support financially the platform that openly don't give a fuck about their users and creators (which are the only reason this platform exists) and care only about their shareholders. Because why would they pay to make the rich richer while content creators struggle to earn money for rent!

[-] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Google has been shamelessly destroying all their projects the last few years in a desperate fit to make money. They've weakened ad blockers on chrome, they've altered the search algorithm so random BS is mixed in with regular to drive towards sponsored content, their starting to setup browser level DRM and creating un skipable ads. None of this is for anything more than greed and desperation. They no longer see anything other than money as the end goal and don't care if their selling a shittier product at a higher price than no one was ever even willing to pay for. F*ck google.

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[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No. This is why if a service loses sight of its core value proposition, it dies.

If youtube is actually successful in killing adblocking on their service - which I suppose a server-side timer could actually do - then they will only succeed in killing their relevance, just like so many social media seem to be doing right now.

I pay for services like a debrid and VPN, because they provide me with the services I need. For very few dollars a month I can get 4K streaming from their servers 24/7. That is all hosting should cost. If the fediverse version of youtube, peertube, became mainstream then collectively people should have absolutely no problem maintaining those costs from the users' side.

Once that happens and mainstream video streaming is part of the fediverse, I think the network effect that governs social media might snowball until eventualy centralised social media is a thing of the past.

Do not pay for youtube, whatever you do. Let them die.

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[-] lemann@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago

Personally I don't want to pay Google out of principle tbh, the creators I support can benefit from my Patreon donations and Nebula subscription

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Oh nooo, who will think of the big tech who continue to get record profits every year?

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[-] MrMamiya@feddit.de 95 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah YouTube, the site where I watch a video that tells me in ten minutes what I could read in one. And only 5 advertisements!

Oops, six. I forgot the ad the creator slipped in between minute 1 and 2.

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[-] jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

fuck YouTube premium. why would I pay £19.99 a month when literally the only defining feature for me is no ads. all this will do is allow for more complex ad blockers to be made to bypass this

[-] Z4rK@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

The creators also get a good chunk of the money from premium as far as I’ve been able to verify (by asking some I follow directly).

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[-] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago

There is something fundamentally wrong with a service that shows more ads than content.

[-] dmrzl@programming.dev 69 points 1 year ago

"While the duration of this timer isn't revealed, we expect it to be somewhere around 30 to 60 seconds."

Peak journalism.

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[-] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago

Up next: An AI-enabled Web Browser extension which

  • mutes the YouTube ads and overlays it with cute cat videos
  • clicks the "skip" button for you
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[-] _sideffect@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

I just got my first 30 second UNSKIPPABLE ad on my TV the other day...I closed youtube, as watching a 1min video is NOT worth 30 seconds of ads

[-] Aikawa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recommend you to sideload SmartTube on your TV, *if it has an Android-based OS. It works better than the official app in my opinion, and includes SponsorBlock.

*Edit

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[-] clay830ee@lemm.ee 63 points 1 year ago

The really annoying part is YouTube gets all their content for free, while every other subscription video service pays for content.

[-] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago

They do, but the costs to store all of that high resolution video is enormous. Especially since it must be replicated to local repository for quicker access as popularity raises and removed when popularity falls on videos. The amount of content stored and served is significantly more than Netflix houses. That being said, ads are getting way too intrusive.

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[-] shashi154263@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

The worst part of YouTube ads is super long ads (sometimes even multiple hours long). It has happened to me multiple times. And coincidentally it always happens when I'm feeling sleepy.

Here is a screenshot.

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[-] moitoi@feddit.de 42 points 1 year ago

This is one of these problem with multiple unsolvable issues:

  • people are used to ad block and won't change
  • the price is too high for part of the population (-> ad block for part of them)
  • $1/month, $10/year would attract new paid account but not that much
  • people can't afford/don't want a subscription everything
  • users don't see any value in it
  • a fraction of the paid will go ad block with the price increase
  • people will circumvent the ad block block
  • capitalism
  • ...
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[-] dolle@feddit.dk 41 points 1 year ago

I actually don't have a problem paying for online services. I host my own email, I pay for Kagi search and I do monthly donations to Mozilla and Wikipedia. What I have an issue with is services that start out as advertisement based and then introduce paid plans, because now you still have all these shitty mechanics just for driving up engagement which results in unhealthy incentives for content creators and rabbit holes. I want a service that is for YouTube what Kagi is to Google Search. But perhaps that model is too difficult to monetize, I don't know.

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[-] hackitfast@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

NewPipe, and YouTube Revanced are great apps you can use on mobile. They aren't attached to any Google account so you can just use them and skip adds all day without getting any account theoretically banned.

For those who continue to use YouTube and adblockers on PC, simply just make a new throwaway Google account. In the case that they aren't actually bluffing (they are) then at least your temp account will be banned.

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[-] Graphine@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Dear YouTube,

Go fuck yourselves.

Sincerely, the 1% of people who actually use adblockers happily.

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