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32GB Ram and Linux (quitaxd.online)
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[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 248 points 2 months ago

Meanwhile the electron app you're trying to run

[-] Damage@feddit.it 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The other day my laptop was sluggish as hell, checked top and turns out Discord and Orca Slicer were maxing out my cores

[-] dai@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Is Orca that resource intensive? I'm running it in a container with KasmVNC and have never really checked out the resource usage. Admittedly it's on one of my local servers in another room. I guess it's how large your projects are too.

Edit: maybe it's just my small projects

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[-] qui@quitaxd.online 8 points 2 months ago

you are right :d

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

And your browser with 300 open tabs doesn't even fit into the room

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Firefox unloads old tabs when restarting the browser, so most of those are more like temporary bookmarks.

Don't think I've ever seen someone open 300 tabs in one session or on Chromium...

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[-] JGrffn@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

Can't relate, just upgraded my laptop from 32GB to 64GB since VScode would keep closing due to OOM. What? Oh, no, it's not vscode's fault.....I keep like 5 Firefox windows with 30+ tabs open, like a fucking maniac..... Close them? What do you mean "close" them?

[-] cymor@midwest.social 19 points 2 months ago

Only 30 tabs, you need to bump those numbers up!

[-] dan@upvote.au 8 points 2 months ago

I had around 1500 open tabs in Firefox. It was fine. I figured enough was enough and closed them all. Now I close all tabs at the end of the day before shutting down.

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[-] missphant 8 points 2 months ago

When I started hitting OOMs I just downloaded free ram.

(Modifying my zram-generator config to use 1.5x my ram size instead of the measly 4GB – uncompressed – default. Seriously it's worth looking into, though default depends on your distro)

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[-] expr@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

You only need 1 tab to OOM if that tab is Jira. I've literally had tabs take up more than 10GB.

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[-] waz@feddit.uk 37 points 2 months ago

Wondering how my 64gb will outlast every other part upgrade my gaming Linux box will get over the years

[-] sxan@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Your use case is obviously different, but I've gone years between system upgrades. I mostly do OSS coding, or work stuff; not gaming. The only case I can imagine needing to upgrade my little Ryzen with 16 cores - a laptop CPU - is if it becomes absolutely imperative that I run AI models on my desktop. Or if Rust really does become pervasive; compiling Rust programs is almost as bad as compiling Haskell, and will take over my computer for minutes at a time.

When I got this little micro, the first thing I did was upgrade it to 64GB of RAM, because that's the one thing I think you can never have too much of; especially with the modern web and all the shit that brings with it; Electron apps, and so on, absolutely chew up memory. The one good thing about the Rust trend is better memory use, so the crappy compile times are somewhat forgiveable.

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[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Gives a lot of Space for running Virtual machines.

Also browsers can chew that up fast if you have a lot of tabs, Firefox has managed to do it a few times. At least until I started limiting its RAM to 8GB (best decision ever)

Limit Firefox to 8GB of RAM .desktop file

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Firefox RAM limit 8GB
GenericName=Firefox Ram limit 8GB
Comment=Limit RAM for Firefox to 8GB;
Exec=systemd-run --user --scope -p MemoryLimit=8G firefox
Icon=firefox
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Categories=Utility;Development;
StartupWMClass=Firefox

(To use it with other apps like Chrome or Electron apps just replace the command at the end, and startup class with the ones from the program you'd like to run. Icon and Name changes are optional but might be desirable so you remember what app it is for).

[-] uis@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Alternatively you can open about:config and limit memory usage there. For example limit in-memory cache.

EDIT: it seems firefox doesn't allow to set RAM limits yet, only cache sizes

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[-] snugglebutt 29 points 2 months ago

the rest is electron

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

you just need more things to run on it

Screenshot_20241102-175331_Firefox

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago

Once you fire up a webpage it'll just dump garbage all over the couch.

[-] jennifer 21 points 2 months ago

Plenty of room left over for my Chrome tabs

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Four of them.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago
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[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Microsoft Flight Simulator: A whole airplane on the couch

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[-] everypizza 18 points 2 months ago

i think you might be able to run kde plasma with that!

[-] deadly4u@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

Fun fact, KDE is very lightweight. More so than a lot of folks give it credit for

[-] Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It’s amazing. Until there is a conflict with mismatched qt libraries.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago

Better add 32 GB Zram to be safe tho

I use Kde plasma so I'm allowed to make fun of it

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One of the cushions is your browser, the other half some IDE you use to write an one-liner.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Try realizing ten thousand mesh instances in Blender and watch that sucker eat the rest of your RAM like it's got a pebble in its shoe.

I did that on my work PC with 128 GB memory (originally built for esports shit) and it still wasn't enough.

[-] Rin@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

What fucking e sports game need 100gb of ram...

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

It was also supposed to be an all-in-one recording/streaming computer for university events, and they had to use the budget for something. It ended up being used as a proxmox host for a while, then it was handed off to me. Now the most resource-intensive thing it runs is a Windows 11 VM that I ~~torture mercilessly~~ use for experiments. It rarely gets to 10% memory utilization.

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[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

Like any cat, Linux is actually liquid and can flow over the whole sofa if it so chooses.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Y'all need to point me towards one of those tiny Linux systems. I have an old no-longer-bricked Toshiba Satellite that somebody gave me and I got it to boot again, so I slapped Mint on it to see how I liked it since I've never messed with that distro before. The only problem is this sucker is a dog, it's only got 2 gigs of RAM and a pokey 5400 RPM platter drive in it. The thing sits there and thrashes swap constantly even when it's doing nothing, and when Mint is creating one of its automated system image rollback things it's completely unusable. I'm surprised the laptop platters don't escape their casing and bore into the Earth like a drill bit.

I found that it will... eventually... load and run the latest FreeCAD build and once it's going it's actually not bad (awful screen resolution and single touch only trackpad notwithstanding). But getting there when taken altogether takes about 20 minutes...

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 7 points 2 months ago

If you can afford it, a SSD will significant improve your life. Also, any more memory will help.

As others said, you can disable swap.

Are you running the xfce version of Mint? It's significantly less resources.

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[-] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

i mean, some games (cough cough factorio cough cough) manage to use up about 25GB of ram on my system, so it's nice to have a buffer. now, my 64GB may be considered a bit overkill but i call it future proofing

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[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 12 points 2 months ago

I use a shit load of RAM on Linux. You guys clearly have amateur numbers when it comes to how many applications you have open at once.

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[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

Leaves Firefox running.

OOM

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

That's how I got a free netbook. The netbook had 32GB flash with windows and office occupying 27+GB. Then windows wanted to do an update - with an 8+GB file. Spot the problem. And windows can get quite annoying with updates. As the netbook could not be expanded, and attempts to redirect the update to a USB stick did not work, a newer netbook was bought, and I got the old one. Linux plus libreoffice plus a bunch of extras happily sat in 4GB...

[-] icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Am i the only one who still has no problems with 8GB? Not that I wouldn't be happy with more but i can't remember the last time I've even thought about ram usage

[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

If your job requires you to use chrome and vscode, 8GB is usually not enough :/

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

so much space for activities

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Now run Mixtral

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 points 2 months ago

You are not Linuxing hard enough.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I spent years gaming on 8gb. Sure I could barely open bg3 but do I really need my 32 now?

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago

True story. I remember back in the bad old days when Firefox had notorious memory leaks, so when building my latest PC, I put in 32GB. The monitor app on my desktop has only ever topped out at showing 30% of memory allocated.

[-] neonred@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Floppinux anyone?

Long time ago I had a 3.5" HD floppy disk Linux with graphical user interface and ethernet and some programs on it. But 64 bit and the increased kernel size probably make this difficult nowadays.

[-] Alk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Play star citizen. You'll use that up fast.

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Ram disks!!

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