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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 82 points 2 weeks ago

Aw, snap? No shit?

They're already trying.

[-] ToastedPlanet 22 points 2 weeks ago

This has been going on for at least the last week or two. An article I read said they could account for a biased poll, but I think the quantity is still skewing the average. If these polls are suspect, because of their source, it's unclear to me why polling websites sites are uncritically taking them into account.

[-] David_Eight@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago

This was the plan all along. This has always been the end game. I have seen no major movements in our government to prevent this

[-] ToastedPlanet 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is why it's important to vote in record numbers no matter where people live. Kamala needs to win in a landslide in as many places as possible to leave no doubt that these polls were bogus. Otherwise we could end up with contested election results all over the country. edit: typos

[-] Lemming421@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

You’re missing MAGA logic though. If Harris wins in a landslide, that’s further proof that the results were tampered with, because clearly not that many people actually voted for her…

[-] ToastedPlanet 13 points 2 weeks ago

Following that strategy we would be giving the election away to Trump. A small deviation from the polls in Kamala's favor would be more suspect than a large one, because it would be easier to fake. We cannot win over MAGA Republicans in this narrow time window, they will say the election is rigged even if Trump wins. For most people, seeing Kamala win in a landslide would be proof the polls got it wrong.

[-] Lemming421@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, sorry, don’t misunderstand - obviously a crushing defeat in the popular vote is the best outcome.

I’m just saying they have a plan for a narrow loss and a plan for getting the shit kicked out of them.

[-] ToastedPlanet 8 points 2 weeks ago

I’m just saying they have a plan for a narrow loss and a plan for getting the shit kicked out of them.

No, your argument is mistaking nonsense and lying no matter what as a plan. The way we win is by them getting the shit kicked out of them in the election count results. It makes MAGA Republicans sound absurd when they try to say millions of votes were faked. The majority of people know that's ridiculous because we all live in reality. Making the MAGA movement look like clowns when they inevitably make their false claims is how we win.

To put it another way, we don't need to win over MAGA loyalists, we need to win over everyone else. The smaller the margin of the victory for Kamala, the more credible the MAGA movement's claims seem. They will make the same claims no matter the actual results. That's not logic, that's additional evidence that the MAGA movement is a cult. So we need to pull the rug out from under the MAGA movement with a landslide victory for Kamala by voting in record numbers.

It's not a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a case of making it clear that the inevitable lie from MAGA is in fact a lie.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

Jesus Christ he's going apeshit with the facepaint. Good god man, are you trying for blackface and missing?

That is the face of a demented sociopathic rapist. Not, like, rhetorically - literally.

[-] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

At the debate his (painted) skin was literally a darker shade than Harris's.

[-] CritFail@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Like a bad Photoshop

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Still trying to reach out to minorities, I see.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago

Strategists? Really? Trump is literally already saying that if he loses its because of fraud. The seeds are sewn and the sign is up. Not sure strategists are needed here.

[-] ToastedPlanet 15 points 2 weeks ago

The strategy is tell everyone the polls are bogus and then vote in record numbers.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

They're the ones who come up with all the incredible concepts of plans that come out of his mouth.

[-] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

The good news is that Biden is president this time, not trump. Plus the immunity for protecting democracy by ruthlessly enforcing election integrity

[-] ToastedPlanet 19 points 2 weeks ago

Biden would definitely immediately send in support to any kind of Jan 6th esque event.

I doubt he will leverage the immunity SCOTUS has given presidents to safeguard democracy, but I would be happy to be proven wrong on that point. Hopefully it won't come to that.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 2 weeks ago

You just made me picture him in aviators firing an minigun

[-] ToastedPlanet 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 23 points 2 weeks ago

Typically you warn someone of something that they were not originally expecting. When it is expected, that is usually referred to as reminding. Like a reminder that this Sunday is the end of daylight savings time in the United States.

[-] ToastedPlanet 5 points 2 weeks ago

There are people who are not plugged in to US politics that check in somewhere at the end of an election cycle. With so much information to consume and so little time it's easy for people to have missed something. For political junkies, this is a reminder, but for many people it is a warning.

I try to take a break from the news at least once a week. Even that one day away can put me behind with everything that happens.

It's like that Doctor Who episode with the spaceship next to the black hole. The closer we get to election day the more news that happens in a given day. It's like we're slowing down by the black hole and years of news are rocketing past us on the other end of the spaceship.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Dude looks like he smeared diarrhea all over his face.

[-] coyootje@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

It'd be nice if they rejected the result if he won instead but no, of course the Republicans can't have a spine like that.

[-] ToastedPlanet 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not sure how many never Trump Republicans are in the House of Representatives or the Senate now. It was a minority before, but it's probably even smaller now. Mitt Romney didn't run for reelection in the Senate. Every House seat is up for grabs.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Are Joe Rogan interviews inadmissible in court? Trump admitted to fake polling on the podcast.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

No shit, strategists. Now strategise about what you do to protect the election

[-] ToastedPlanet 3 points 2 weeks ago

Spread the word. People need to know to ignore the polls and vote for Harris and Walz.

[-] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Alright. That's a perfectly reasonable concern. Do the Democrats have a concrete plan prepared to ensure that this doesn't turn into Bush v Gore round 2? Because if Trump manages to legally contest this to the Supreme Court, then little problems like 'Justice' and 'Truth' certainly won't get in their way of installing a dictator.

[-] ToastedPlanet 4 points 2 weeks ago

The plan is for people to vote in record numbers. Be vocal! Vote Blue! =)

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

They’re sounding pretty weak!

[-] ToastedPlanet 4 points 2 weeks ago

Planning for failure in a democratic election definitely makes the Republican position look weak. Regardless, vote Blue!

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Are these strategists paid much? A toddler could have told you that.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Theyre told in detail about the concept of getting paid.

[-] ToastedPlanet 1 points 2 weeks ago

If all people are seeing are the polls, then they could easily be misled. Tell people right-wing organizations are skewing their polls to create a red mirage.

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not in the US, but it was their playbook last time around and has been consistent with everything they've been doing for years. There's been no significant consequences for their behaviour, why would they not take the same tack?

[-] ToastedPlanet 2 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly, that's why this election is so important. The only way there will be consequences for the fascists is if they are out of power.

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, sure, but I was making a snarky comment about the "strategists". I wouldn't really call "state the bloody obvious" to be particularly insightful analysis!

[-] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

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