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[-] Sestren@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago

All of this anticheat bs is still making the baseline assumption that the problem needs to be solved at the expense of the players.

It's illegal to steal someone else's property. We don't enforce that law by cutting off everyone's hands preemptively so that there is less demand on police to solve a problem that hasn't happened yet...

If people are assholes and go against the wishes of society, you police and moderate them. If they can't moderate their platform, that isn't the fault of the community - it's a failing of the corporation. It's such a ridiculous mindset. It's a fucking video game...

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

You deserve an upvote from everyone and anyone whomst has ever played a video game online

[-] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Make fun of Apex all you want, it was the best performing game of its kind on the Deck and kept me from selling my Deck sooner. Now, I’m even a Linux convert because of how well games like Apex worked away from their Windows origins. Seeing a large game like this be killed off on Linux is awful. I’m not sure where the blame lies (with EA, right?) but it needs to be fixed.

[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee 36 points 2 months ago

The problem are kernel-anticheats, and EA of course.

[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

The problem is EAs business model for this game. It is free to pay, so EA need to extract money otherwise. They introduce some gamified resource collection and crafting with exponentially rising costs, etc. And hope that gamers circumvent that by buying stuff with real money. Now players don't all want or can't do that, and look for alternative solutions.

So EAs business model drives people to cheat. To cheat them primarily and other players secondarily.

And because of their business model, they cannot solve the cheating between players by giving them dedicated servers or just let them P2P match, because they would loose control over them and their ability to extract more money.

[-] random_character_a@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

There was a time when my steam friend preasured me to get Apex Legends, but I refused because of piece of shit EA. Seems I made a right choice.

But then again nobody plays that anymore, so nothing gained, nothing lost.

[-] deltapi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

EA fucked us out of a TitanFall 3. And a 3rd Alice from American McGee

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 26 points 2 months ago

Block EA on your steam page and avoid all this bullshit.

[-] Emerica@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Can you fully block a publisher? I’m sick of seeing Activision and EA games up there so it’d be great if you can.

[-] Maiq@lemy.lol 14 points 2 months ago

Steam allows you to ignore publishers.

  1. Go to the steam store page for publisher.

  2. Select the gear icon. Right of the "News" tab

  3. Select Ignore this creator.

[-] Emerica@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Little late but, thank you! Got it done.

[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

What a shame, my kid plays this on our Linux pc, he's gonna be devastated.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago

Let me guess without reading: kernel-level anti-cheat?

[-] _spiffy@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago

Nope. They had anti cheat that supported it, but they experienced higher issues with cheating via linux than elsewhere. Which sucks. People who cheat suck.

[-] pycorax@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I'm curious to see how Valve will respond to this seeing as they have CS. I imagine they'd be interested to build a solution but I'm not sure how plausible that even is.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I never understand why when this happens the solution is always "cut off everyone" instead of placing Linux players in a lower trust lobby

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

That would just cause legit Linux players to generate negativity by always being stuck with cheaters. It's way easier to just remove support if it really is most of your cheating problems for such a small player base.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Linux users are starting to sound like a bunch of entitled dicks. /s

[-] visor841@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It's EAC, which is kernel level on Windows but not on Linux. I guess they wanted to go full kernel-level anti-cheat.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

It's using EAC which supports Linux.

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

That sucks.

Apex was the game I played with my friends to keep in touch long distance. Guess I gotta find something new now. Sure as he'll ain't installing Win11 for it.

I guess it's been a long time coming. The dev decisions and priorities the last few years have really made it feel like I'm the last person they want playing their game.

[-] exu@feditown.com 8 points 2 months ago

Deep Rock Galactic?

[-] Bruhh@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

If you are looking for a semi competitive shooter, I'd highly recommend The Finals. Tons of fun and solid gun play. Game isn't officially supported but runs great on linux.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

eh, i switched to the finals.

apex matchmaking is trash and i hope it dies.

[-] SlamWich@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

W take, The Finals is the best!

[-] B312@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Man I’ve not heard about the finals in a while. I remember I played it every day for two week straight and got everything for my class. Is it better now than at launch?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

i believe so. they added stuff, the core gameplay is the same.

its fun

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't put it on my deck if it printed me a 5 dollar bill every day.

Nor on my cell phone.

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