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[-] Unknown1234_5@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

In a different voting system that would be true, and if you don't have the somewhat obscure and technical piece of voting knowledge that this video explains really well, there's no reason not to think that:

Https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

Once you understand that the dumb is baked into the voting math itself, "too dumb to vote third party" clarifies into "first past the post is shit", and the solution becomes pushing like hell for ranked choice voting, single transferable vote, alternative vote, etc. Stopping the fourth reich is an implied portion of that process, as a way of preserving voting itself.

Make sure to watch that video because you're thinking correctly, just without factoring in one key game piece that there's no reason for you to have heard of, one that kind of flips the while thing around.

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[-] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

I don't need any mental gymnastics or long winded explanation. Both of the major party candidates have parts of their platform that are deal breakers for me. So, I will exercise my right to vote for someone that more aligns with my values.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 14 points 3 months ago

You very much do have the right to do that, as you should. And you don’t have to justify it for any reason.

But IF you have a preference between the R and D candidates, and somebody points out that you mathematically helped the one you dislike by voting third party or staying home, they are still correct. It’s not any kind of moral or ethical thing on its own; it’s just a side effect of how our voting system is designed.

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[-] kittenzrulz123 13 points 3 months ago

Liberals explaining how "harm reduction" means voting but never demanding anything while calling anyone who criticizes them a "Russian bot":

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

I haven’t done the math. Assuming full support, is there a 3rd party candidate on the ballot in enough states to actually win?

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[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I voted Stein in Georgia. My vote never belonged to Harris, so me not voting for her has taken nothing away.

Maybe stop assuming people will vote for candidates, and start earning those votes.

[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 15 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately, the US's winner-takes-all voting system makes it so that your (entirely reasonable and otherwise simply correct) mindset leads to what's called the Spoiler Effect, where a third party vote actually just ends up helping your least favorites. Because of this, the winner-takes-all system inevitably leads to two dominant parties, and being forced to vote for the shiniest of two turds. To fix this, we just need a different voting system. I'm partial to approval voting, but more likely that'd be ranked choice.

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