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[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago
[-] menemen@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

It will probably burst, but that does not man that AI will go away completly.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 3 hours ago

Same thing happened to the Dot Com bubble. The fundamental technology has valid uses, but we're in the stage where some people are convinced it can be used for literally anything.

[-] ugjka@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

It will burst because no one is going to pay subscription fee for every AI gizmo every app puts in your phone. The way they make any money now is just funneling more and more vc money in exchange of AGI promise (coming soon)

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Eh... "Robin Li says increased accuracy is one of the largest improvements we've seen in Artificial Intelligence. "I think over the past 18 months, that problem has pretty much been solved—meaning when you talk to a chatbot, a frontier model-based chatbot, you can basically trust the answer," the CEO added."

That's plain wrong. Even STOA black box chatbots give wrong answer to the simplest of questions sometimes. That's precisely what NOT being able to trust mean.

How can one believe anything this person is saying?

[-] Benaaasaaas@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

To trust a computer it has to be correct 100% of the time, because it can't say "I don't know".

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

The AI bubble might be the 2020s' dotcom bubble.

[-] D4MR0D@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Crossing fingers it bursts soon

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago
[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago

If you're invested in these stocks, make sure you have your stop loss orders in place, 100%.

I imagine the bubble bursting will be quick and deadly.

[-] turddle@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Set stop loss at 100%, got it 👍

[-] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

Just to b sure, I'm going to set mine at 200%, to be double sure.

[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

What are the AI rising stocks?

[-] don@lemm.ee 12 points 19 hours ago

They couldn’t keep their heads on fucking straight during the .com bubble, and here they are doing it all over again.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 21 hours ago
[-] Veneroso@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago

Please please please please please please please please

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 58 points 1 day ago

Always invest in the spades never the gold mine

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I went to a AI conference and you can just sense how bogus it all feels. Like "Our patent pending AI system references billions of crowd-sourced data points to identify what you are craving for breakfast! Never think about breakfast again!"

And as a engineer speaking with other engineers, we all collectively shrug and just keep taking the money. I'll AI your toaster for enough money IDGAF.

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

That's why Nvidia is making bank right now

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

And AMD won the console wars

[-] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

AMD won because it has x86 CPUs and GPUs.

[-] Veneroso@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Playing the long game.

Meanwhile... At the Intel board meeting..... Qualcomm: (Unzips fly, unfurls testicles, placing them on the table for all to see) "I want to buy Intel".

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[-] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago

People look at the advertising for this shit (and future tech-bro shit) and wonder, "who is this for"? Remember E.L.O.N. Exaggerated Lies Overlooked Narratives

Think of every manager and boss you've ever had. They don't think, they just do. Salesmen convince them using issues that don't exist, to sell solutions that don't really work, to people that don't understand how to use them. Repeat over 70 years and you have the modern American education system.

Now things are different. Money is scarce, things are getting tight. Tech-Bros have changed from a mildly infuriating strategy, to a downright abusive one. These simple minded managers think everything is under attack, and the only solution is what they already have, but heavily monetized and completely unusable.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

It's a lead bubble

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, but the 0.1% remaining will take over the world.

Does anyone remember the era when there were a million search engines? Google didn't spawn alone.

Same with Amazon. You think nobody else tried to make an online store in the 90s? Lol.

People are trying to vindicate their dislike of AI, pointing to trends like this as if it were supporting evidence. But saying "AI is going to be a big flop because 99% of companies today will end up failing" is as stupid as saying "online shopping will never work because 99% of online stores will close by the year 2010"

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

.com websites didn't disappear after the dotcom bubble burst either. AI is definitely in a massive bubble right now, but something being in a bubble doesn't mean it's going to vanish completely. The AI companies with some substance backing them will weather the upcoming storm.

Full disclosure: I don't hate AI, but I hate that management-types are fellating themselves to the idea of it or the things than it can potentially do, rather than something that is providing them some kind of concrete benefit right now. I'm also mad at consumers for being stupid little sheep and paying a premium for anything that companies just happen to slap an "AI-powered" sticker on. It's like organic produce 2.0 - you have to have it, but we can't explain why, nor can we elaborate on what it does better than it's contemporary.

[-] dan@upvote.au 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Same with Amazon. You think nobody else tried to make an online store in the 90s? Lol.

Fun fact: the first online store still exists. It's Pizza Hut. They launched an experiment for online ordering in 1994. The first company to ever sell a product on the web.

[-] wavebeam@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Yum brands has always been at the forefront of using tech to sell fast food. This was true then and is true now. Taco Bell has pioneered kiosks and in-app ordering as well as KDS in QSR environments.

[-] figjam@midwest.social 7 points 19 hours ago
[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 11 hours ago

No one actually thought that they were a good idea it was just a bunch of con artists. It was a bubble for sure but it was an entirely artificially created one. There was no real business behind any of it.

[-] figjam@midwest.social 1 points 8 hours ago

I would argue that this current AI bubble is artificially created by a different type of conmen.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah but in fairness the AI actually does work. You can actually use the AI to achieve things I've never seen anybody achieve anything beneficial with NFTs

My argument really being that there is a potential for real benefit with AI in a way that never existed for made-up digital scarcity

[-] figjam@midwest.social 1 points 7 hours ago

I totally agree with you and once dudes with dollar signs in their eyes stop with craming it in toasters I will be very happy to see where the tech goes.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago
[-] pup_atlas@pawb.social 3 points 16 hours ago

Sure, but the difference here was that all those companies were offering something different. Some had better results than others, a better ui, more accuracy in certain niches, etc. But 99% of AI companies now are all effectively reselling the OpenAI API. They aren’t making an effort to differentiate themselves at all. It’s as if Google was the only shop in town, and everyone bought all their search data an algorithms to slap their logo on. That’s just simply not sustainable at anywhere near the scale it is now. This won’t be a 3-5 year decline, it’ll be a 2 month crash.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 6 points 23 hours ago

I doubt anyone is downplaying that. People are just discussing how all companies are pushing A.I into products that don't need it. Idk about you but I'm tired seeing A.I advertised as a feature on every app/site when it's just a gpt wrapper.

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[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 48 points 1 day ago

No shit.

Like all new technologies, there is a time when bunches of companies jump on the band wagon to get in on the action. You can see it all throughout the history of the industrial revolution.

They mostly know that there will come a great weeding out of those that can't handle the technology or just fail from poor management. But they are betting they will be among the 1% that wins the race and remain to dominate the market.

The rest will just bide their time until the next Big Thing comes along. And the process starts over again.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 46 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but thanks to the glory of corporateworld, all the people involved in making these decisions will be in a higher position at a different company by the time the consequences come knocking.

You definitely will not regret spending billions of dollars on GPUs and electricity bills.

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

AI companies specializing in spreading bullshit all across the internet have a bright future however

[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Maybe it's like the dotcom bubble: there is genuinely useful tech that has recently emerged, but too many companies are trying to jump on the bandwagon.

LLMs do seem genuinely useful to me, but of course they have limitations.

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