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[-] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

"Switch to Linux" is always the answer but a Nvidia graphics card, Stream Deck, and GoXLR are all things I use every single day, with no official linux support I'm never going to be able to use it as a daily driver. I have plenty of VMs that I run Linux on, but it's just a non-starter for my day to day gaming rig.

MS should have done what they said and made W10 "the last version of windows" instead of doing the typical corpo bullshit and coming out with an even worse version.

[-] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Oh, look, a post on Lemmy about Windows. I'm excited to engage in a unique, nuanced discussion about the topic of the post!

So glad I'm not on Reddit where people just repeat the same predictable thing over and over then jerk each other off.

(I use Linux too. But I hate seeing copy+paste Linux shilling on every Windows post. It's preaching to the choir and uninspired.)

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

Cant wait to erase windows in October 14 2025 I just need better app support for me idc a out adobe Microsoft office and stuff and roblox I have a few options sober or delete roblox thinking of deleting roblox due to the moderation thing

[-] el_abuelo@programming.dev 6 points 50 minutes ago
[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 42 minutes ago

True just my plans and stuff

[-] BellyPurpledGerbil@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 hours ago

Literally moved everything to Linux (Nobara) like 3 weeks ago and the only thing I can't get to work is Bizhawk which I can easily get around. It's insane how far Linux has come for gaming and whatnot.

[-] GeneralInterest@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I was thinking how, back in the day, the most popular web browser was IE, which wasn't on Linux. Now the most popular browser is Chrome, which has been on Linux since 2009 or whenever it was.

And of course lots of other big software is on Linux, like VS Code, Zoom, Slack, Skype. And Linux is on the Steam Deck. So yes I agree, Linux has come a long way.

[-] uriel238 8 points 10 hours ago

To be fair, I may have stopped getting updates anyway? I suspect what happened is typical, that some Win10 update bugged the update process and I was supposed to either roll it back or get the next one by hand and just... didn't.

It is my intention to start looking at linux distros and have one installed by Summer 25...assuming I haven't immolated in a wildfire or been sent to a detention center by then.

[-] Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Same thing happened to me a few years ago. My old laptop from 2013 is hardware incompatible with something in modern Windows10 and when it tried installing the late 2019 update it just died. Had to buy a new laptop to keep working.

Today, that same laptop is happily running Arch Linux. I'm still trying to decide what I'll do with the main gaming PC.

[-] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago

Frankly, I don't care.

I'm going to keep using Windows 10, updates or not, until I absolutely have no other choice, hoping against hope that the cracks in the Recall/AI monolith with have spread wide enough that a future Win 12 or 13 won't have them in it. I don't run a business. I don't keep sensitive information on any internet capable devices and my work uses the AS400 system.

I know Linux is a thing, and about a dozen years ago I spent a year using Ubuntu exclusively. While appreciating the OS, I got tired of chanting magic spells at computer every time I wanted to use software I liked on it, and so went back to Windows.

These days, despite being a reasonably tech savvy person approaching 60, I'm getting to the point where I'm just not up to learning/relearning an OS unless there is a critical need, and using Windows 10 there just isn't. At least not for me.

[-] glaber@lemm.ee 22 points 13 hours ago

The days of "chanting magic spells at computer" being synonymous with the Linux experience are far gone. I recommend you just make a Fedora installer and take it for a spin on the live test system! You don't need to commit to it to just try it

[-] mtpender@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

[Children of the Omnissiah plays]

[-] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Some questions:

What version of Linux does Fedora install? Is it directly compatible with Windows software such as games and OBS, or does it require modifications/compatibility installations such as WINE? Does it have documented support online or is it a matter of haunting forums and such for when problems occur? And no matter how solid an OS is, I will tend to break it, generally by doing stupid shit, but I will break it. Before putting it back together. Which is generally how I tend to learn software.

What version of Linux does Fedora install?

As of this writing, My install of Fedora Linux 40 KDE is running Linux kernel version 6.10.11.

If that's not what you were asking, Fedora is the distro. It's a fork of Red Hat, uses the rpm package format, they offer the GNOME desktop by default (the "Workstation" flavor) but several other popular UIs are available.

Is it directly compatible with Windows software such as games and OBS, or does it require modifications/compatibility installations such as WINE?

Linux is not directly compatible with Windows software. Either the developer/publisher of the software must ship a Linux version or a compatibility layer such as WINE muse be used. If you play games on Steam, Steam will pretty much just handle that. There is a setting in Steam's settings called Enable Steam Play for all other titles which at this point is the "just work" button.

OBS is open source and widely available on Linux. I just now installed it from Fedora's package manager.

Does it have documented support online or is it a matter of haunting forums and such for when problems occur?

It's documented and supported a hell of a lot better than Windows is. I don't know how people use that puddle of shit. I was converting a computer from an HDD + Dell Optane to a regular SSD. Apparently I didn't quite have the BIOS set up right for this so it gave me an "Install error 0xd2c77e2939a44aa7b5" Which I guess you're expected to write down on a piece of paper by hand because the Windows installer runs in an incomplete and useless environment. Trying to install Linux on this same machine, I got an error which said "Such and such BIOS setting is probably wrong. You can read more abut it here" and gave a hyperlink to a wiki, which was clickable because this was running in the full desktop LIVE environment, and it also included a QR code link to the same article so you could easily pull it up on a mobile device.

That said a lot of your "hey I'm having this weird issue" is going to take you to the distro's forums or to Reddit. As if that's not where most Windows tech support comes from anyway, Microsoft doesn't answer any questions.

And no matter how solid an OS is, I will tend to break it, generally by doing stupid shit, but I will break it. Before putting it back together. Which is generally how I tend to learn software.

You'll fit right in here. I once borked a Linux Mint install by uninstalling Python. A LOT of shit broke including the package manager, I couldn't get Python reinstalled. That was a reinstall of the OS, thankfully I had /home on a separate partition so I could just install the OS around it without touching that and I didn't even have to restore a backup. That kind of mistake tends not to be the "I just ruined my life" moment that borking Windows is because Linux is faster and easier to install. I've never killed a Linux install doing anything "normal" aka what you'd expect to do if you were used to Windows. All except once I was doing goofy things with the system files, and that once I was building a circuit on a Raspberry Pi while it was running, a jumper wire got away from me and touched something on the board and it froze. Had to power cycle it. Probably don't let random wires touch your motherboard while the computer is running. That's a Top Gear Top Tip.

[-] glaber@lemm.ee 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

If you are going to play games you might as well go and try Bazzite instead! It's built on a Fedora base with some good additions:

  • It's atomic: this basically means that everytime yov boot your computer you'll have the choice of booting onto the newest version of your system, or the one before. If you fuck up anything it's as easy as reverting to the last version where things were alright!

  • It comes with a bunch of preloaded drivers and compatibility layers: makes compatibility with modern games and software as good as you can get it without having to tinker heaps. It's pretty seamless.

  • The installer includes many programs by default. Just tick a few boxes and you can choose to have Spotify, OBS, Discord or Darktable automatically installed in your computer

As for the documented support you can probably go a long way with the Arch, Gentoo and Fedora wikis. Other than that I'm afraid it's gonna be relying on forums and Reddit. I've never irreversably broken my Fedora system for what is worth, and I don't consider myself that tech savvy!

Game support is also really good these days. Anything that you can play via Steam will basically run. And performance is better for some games on Linux these days! Itch.io also has good support I think. You should be able to run most things that don't use shady anti-cheat, but forget about League of Legends, Valorant or Fortnite.

I'm not sure what you mean by Linux version! But Fedora (and Bazzite) belong to their own "branch" of Linux, apart from Debian and Arch. Their philosophy is a balance between rock-solid stability (Debian) vs bleeding-edge software (Arch) that many people, including me, think hits the sweet spot quite well!

If there's anything I missed or you are curious feel free to ask more questions :)

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

I upgraded to 11 and honestly it's about the same. Very familiar and fast. I've had no problems with it in the 3 years I've been using it. If I had the preference I'd use 10 but only by a very slim margin as they are virtually identical in day to day usage. I do think it's faster.

[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 14 points 12 hours ago

Already switched to linux. I still have one windows drive that I haven't booted for about a year. Haven't relied on virtual machines or anything.

[-] bustAsh@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

I've turned a few older neighbors on to Linux when they complained that window updates caused their PC's to run too slow.

I'd tell them 'before you go out and buy a new computer, let me install Linux if you don't like it, you lose nothing. In the end, each one of them was happy their computer was running like new again.

[-] LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Graphic card ist what get's me nervos

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

This will be the best thing that ever happened to Linux. Hell, it might even make it up to 4.5% market share.

[-] Lightfire228@pawb.social 13 points 13 hours ago
[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Last I heard it was 4%.

Maybe it will make 5% next year, then.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

I'm definitely migrating to Linux at some point before then

[-] Cpo@lemm.ee 33 points 17 hours ago

A better use case for linux desktop could not have been invented.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 32 points 19 hours ago

My biggest worry for this is, there's probably dozens of black hats out there that have found some very large exploit for Windows 10, and are holding off on abusing it until the day Microsoft ends support.

Currently, my plan is to make a partition for Linux Mint, set up dual boot, see how much of my daily computer obsession I can execute through there, and then try to slowly transition while slowly moving stuff from Windows. (I am vaguely worried I'll run into that Windows issue where files accessed from outside the OS login are security-restricted. That has even screwed up my Windows reformat fixes)

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