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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 145 points 1 month ago

Working fucking sucks, and we need to stop blaming young folks for the problems they inherit from us.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Meh. At least online there is a doomer mentality which turns into anger when you point out that a homes and a decent life are actually obtainable, followed by countless bootlicker comments.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 18 points 1 month ago

Attainable by 100% of people?

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Bougie_Birdie 16 points 1 month ago

'Most' isn't good enough
51% is 'most'
If you scored 51% on a test, you would fail

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

65% trailing the EU by 4%. Your metric is absurd 🤣 comparing a school test to home ownership historically. What an insane argument. Tell me you've never taken a statistics class with out saying the word 🤣.

[-] Bougie_Birdie 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you think 35% of people not being able to afford a home in a world of plenty is ok, then I think you have more to learn about than statistics

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Point out where I said it is okay?

Maybe you shouldn't be looking for an argument. 65% is the status quo. And it's not like most of the renters are living homeless. Hence the doomerism.

[-] Bougie_Birdie 6 points 1 month ago

You laughed in my face and called my viewpoint absurd while defending the status quo

If you think the status quo is acceptable then I'm not going to be the person to convince you otherwise

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I said your metric was worthless. Comparing housing rates with an arbitrary testing scale is at best a lack of understanding math. I also never defended the status quo, only that the doomer mentality is not needed or warranted.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 1 points 1 month ago

Do you mean a majority or most?

[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago
[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I take issue with these: administrative assistants, public relations specialists, airline desk staff who calm passengers with lost luggage, middle management, leadership professionals.

These all exist because humans aren’t perfect. I haven’t read the book but it’s hard to believe the author knows anything about how businesses operate if he thinks a healthy one can be successful without those positions.

Ex. I work for a startup that is growing rapidly and doesn’t have administrative assistants for higher levels. For the most part it’s a disaster leading to a lot of wasted time without them being as productive as they could be. AAs have skills that the regional leaders do not. It’s a symbiotic relationship.

[-] triptrapper@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I recommend this book constantly. It's relatable to basically everyone except the 1%.

[-] Bougie_Birdie 64 points 1 month ago

Many years ago, I worked at a Walmart.
One of the only events that staff would look forward to was an employee profit-sharing program.
It was essentially an annual bonus, and it was typically worth about half a week's pay. Most places that would be an insulting low bonus, but when you work minimum wage and don't get benefits, anything extra is appreciated.

While I was working there, the store went through some major renovations to become a Super Centre. If you're not familiar, that means they added a bunch of refrigerators and such so they could sell fresh groceries instead of just pantry items.
It was a huge pain to deal with during the renovations, they were super disruptive to operations, but the store never closed. We just had to work around the contractors, and the customers were more ornery than usual.

That same year they opened another store across town. Ours is a fairly small town, at the time I wouldn't have thought that our town would support two Walmarts. But since our store was going through major renovations, the other location cannibalized a lot of our traffic.

We didn't get our bonus that year because we weren't profitable enough. We didn't decide to do renovations. We didn't decide to open a new store. We all had to work harder to accommodate the grander corporate strategy of strangling the life out of our town's economy.

This was at least ten years ago. Income inequality has only gotten worse since then. Why the fuck would I do more than the minimal effort if they're going to squeeze me for the minimal wage?

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 month ago

Don't worry everyone, the billionaires are working on automation so they don't need us to work anymore and we can all just starve.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Bold of you to assume "starve" instead of "mass murder" to slow the depletion of Earth's finite resources.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

However, that excitement soon faded. "HR said they wanted fresh ideas from young people, but that was not really happening," he says.

His marketing manager, 13 years his senior, often found his content unclear or unconventional.

In the first two weeks, each 300-word post required over five rounds of revisions. Eventually, all his original ideas ended up being altered.

Hire someone for a creative job. Committee the creativity to death. Wonder why employee is unhappy.

I'm not saying you have to give your employee free reign but you hired someone and then ignored them, maybe the company is wrong.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I hate this. When I was first hired, I really poured in a lot of effort. I took on extra projects, did extra work, trying to get ahead. But every extra project I completed would get sent to a supervisor and manager, they would absolutely wreck it asking for changes that made little to no difference, but took a lot of time to implement. And then they would just.. keep requesting additional changes. for months. back and forth and back and forth.

I got so sick of it, I don't volunteer for fucking anything anymore. Oh, you want my input on this document you've changed as it affects how I do my job? Like I give a shit. Whatever I say will just get garbled and edited and ultimately you'll just do whatever the fuck you want anyway so.... No. I won't suggest any edits or redline your document. I don't care anymore. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it till my shift ends.

Just a bunch of middle managers who all want to look at fancy spreadsheets so they can appear to know what's happening on the manufacturing floor instead of, ya know, actually going down to the floor. Then they all can pretend to know what's going on to their higher up, who is in turn using that to pretend to know what's going on to their higher up, each one knowing less and less, until you get to the CEO or Site head that knows absolutely fuck all about what's going on, with even less of a clue on how to influence it, all because they don't want to actually visit the floor or talk to the poors running their machines.

I went from running my own business to this garbage, and although the steady middle class paycheck is nice, I regret it every day.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I’ve seen this happen. They think they need a designer and then can’t actually find work for them or don’t really know what work they want. Then it becomes a suffer fest for the poor designer.

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 month ago

It's kind of comforting to hear people from across the world with a very different culture has the same problems.

"I cannot do what I love anymore, so I am always tired and unmotivated," she says.

Too real

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The sad thing to me is that they've created six hours a day of time to do something constructive, and they use it to watch movies. That's the real tragedy of our current society, in my opinion. People want their own time to do something "meaningful," but very often they don't honestly know what that is, and instead they just burn their life away being fed the dopamine-hitting, passive consumption that characterizes modern life. I worry the younger generations of millennials and z (of which I'm part) are going to have a serious, wide-spread, paralyzing existential crisis that makes the current malaise and apathy look like the "good times." People are going to look up from their phones when they turn 50 and realize they spent their whole life waiting for their "real life" to begin.

Reminds me of The Bell Jar:

"I saw my life branching out before me like the green fig tree in the story. From the tip of every branch, like a fat purple fig, a wonderful future beckoned and winked. One fig was a husband and a happy home and children, and another fig was a famous poet, and another fig was a brilliant professor, and another fig was Ee Gee, the amazing editor, and another fig was Europe and Africa and South America, and another fig was Constantin and Socrates and Attila and a pack of other lovers with queer names and offbeat professions, and another fig was an Olympic lady crew champion, and beyond and above these figs were many more figs I couldn’t quite make out.

I wanted each and every one of them, but choosing one meant losing all the rest, and, as I sat there, unable to decide, the figs began to wrinkle and go black, and, one by one, they plopped to the ground at my feet."

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Far out, that's poignant. 45m and relating hard

In fairness, I'm working quite hard and fantasising about being able to 'check out', so my scenario is more one of burnout rather than 'not ignited'

[-] shani66@ani.social 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Anyone who well and truly enjoys their job has severe mental issues that need to be worked out. Why would someone give effort towards something that won't ultimately reward them? It's not their project, it's not their company, it's not their passion.

[-] cuban_Pete@lemy.lol 47 points 1 month ago

Because some people's job helps others? Like a nurse does what they do to help save lives, not because they enjoy the workload.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Meanwhile nurses and other care professionals are leaving the field. They love what they do, up to a point.

Many employers have tried the "if you love what you do, you'll love it without any raises, benefits or help." And now there's a lot of additional administration and bureaucracy to get all those important metrics and KPI.

Less people are willing to do the training for the job and more are leaving. Same thing happens for teachers, child care, elderly care.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 34 points 1 month ago

Hmm, I always give my best effort, because that's how I learn the most and sharpen my own skills. Job skills are like any other, they atrophy if you don't stretch them, and they don't grow if you don't push their limits.

Give your effort for your own benefit, not because you expect a reward from your current employer. When you outgrow that relationship, and your employer doesn't value your contributions, then move on.

You are always working for yourself, even if you're getting a paycheck from someone else.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 month ago

Another take: you can dial it back on what your manager gives you and spend more effort on tasks that directly benefit yourself. For example networking, selling yourself, learning new things. My work career has also had periods of fortune and misfortune that far outweighed whatever I was doing in my role. Department restructures, cost-cutting projects, industry booms and busts, sometimes you just try to ride the wave and that doesn’t always mean committing to your role.

[-] prole 5 points 1 month ago

How's that boot leather taste?

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 points 1 month ago

That's what you got from my comment? Do you struggle with reading comprehension?

Read this again:

You are always working for yourself, even if you're getting a paycheck from someone else.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

This. I’m in a high paying job now because of this mentality. Started literally at the bottom as a cart attendant in the late 90s. I don’t outperform others because I’m a bootlicker. I do it to challenge myself and grow.

People that put minimal effort in are hurting themselves more than the company.

[-] bokherif@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

That’s because I got a 3% raise when I needed at least 15-20%. All the bootlickers got promoted with higher raises and now I work (literally) more than ever before. It’s a free market. I’ll adjust my labor effort accordingly and you will not know about it.

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Hey guys, be careful. Articles become popular when people relate to them, not because they are a good article.

Dont feel hopeless and dont resign yourself to failure because others might be unable to function.

Functioning is good... dont let this potentially misleading representation of generations of people make you think you should stop trying.

Mental health is hard to come by on social media, and this article is a great example of reinforcing a self sabotaging attitude.

Good luck, have fun, and kick ass in your own way today.

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